What Athletes and Entrepreneurs Have in Common | Olivia Vivian

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rocking up to season 3 I was ready to go and again the only female in the Grand Final and we get there and stage one is like a race against the clock um that's where I fell the the previous year I was in my zone every obstacle was like bang bang bang I had one left and it's like a trampoline to a spider jump I'd done it before I'd Done It in America this spider wall is like American size and I look back I've got a minute left yeah I'm like oh she's golden she golden and so I start running cuz you have to

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commit a couple steps in I trip over a over a mat and I basically just fall and stumble over this trap into the water I felt like my heart was like in my stomach you could see the opportunity there like it was there and I'd done the training i' done the work I was in my Prime I didn't reach my own expectations or the expectations that others place on me cuz at that point being the only female in a grand final you feel all the women in Australia cheering you on you know they're kind of relying on you to to do

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this and so that's when I had to figure out my why hey what's up guys on today's episode of the agency podcast we have Olivia Vivien ex Olympic Athlete and currently Australia's most celebrated Ninja Warrior today we unpack what it takes to thrive in the face of adversity as an athlete and how to deal with the landscape of social media and the pressure that comes with it I hope you enjoy it as much as I do let's dive in Olivia welcome to the Pod we're excited to have you here with us and

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before we were talking about you know where are you located and we couldn't quite answer that question it sounds like you're living out of a briefcase and traveling non-stop first of all thanks for having me I'm super stoked to be here but yeah I do at times feel like kmen San Diego just you never really know where I am and it's oneway flights only So currently my shoes and my clothes and my car are in Perth okay cool currently but currently who knows where they'll end up you you never know

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with me do you have a preference like when you get to a new space do you have like a a a protocol of like okay I got to figure out my bed and my routine like do you have anything that you try to have as something that's consistent for you for sure I think over the years I've worked out that my morning exercise routine it just like sets up my day puts me in a good mindset and it's able like to set me up to smash the goals I need to get done in that day so no matter where I am I try and make that a

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non-negotiable if I possibly can there's also like there's times where you're like I can't physically work out right now but um I I do my best and speaking of non-negotiable as one of Australia's most decorated Ninja Warriors which is such a great title to have like when people like what are you doing I'm like I'm a n ninja I'm a ninja warrior and they're like what uh and you're an Olympian and you've achieved so much in your professional career for you what

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what is non-negotiable and and how do you build that type of resilience I think I am quite a goal orientated person like I'm not really motivated by the big money or you know like learnings or stuff like that like for me like actually learning about myself and knowing that I'm a bit of a goal focused kind of person but then I was also raised in an elite Institute that was very strict there was a lot of like aiming and striving for this unrealistic perfectionism within gymnastics trying to reach that perfect

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score and stuff like that so I think you know part of my natural personality that I got vers how I was nurtured in this environment to always strive for the next thing or we don't give up you know no matter what and you just you shut up and you get on with it I think a part of that is still Within Me of going okay I achieved that what's next what's next so it kind of just feels like it's climbing Mountain after Mountain sometimes yeah and I understand that like if it becomes a part of your it's like nature versus

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nurture right if you have the nature to enjoy this kind of thing and you're nurtured by an environment to do it that can certainly be a benefit when it comes to you know becoming a Ninja Warrior like how does one become a ninja Warrior all right story time so I think you know after gymnastics I was so burnt out like I opened up my own Cafe and I I didn't exercise at all like you couldn't even bribe me to do a yoga class and I love bribes you know so I was kind of I just I just wasn't in that world and

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then I got a phone call one day and they were doing this new TV show in Sydney and they kind of sold it like we'll fly you over we'll put you up in a hotel and you'll just like just do some obstacles and for me I was like free trip to Sydney um I didn't really know what I was doing or what I was in what year was this this roughly gosh like 200 what are we now maybe 16 2016 roughly I'd say I think so almost a decade ago yeah it feels like that yeah but yeah I just I flew to Sydney and I thought I was doing

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the show wipe out that's what I kind of had in my mind like this big goof show with life jackets like free trip a bit of fun have a spill that's it yeah yeah and the reality of it is like you show up and yeah we were put in a nice hotel and then the next morning we were like jetted over to coatu Island and we did a full day of like media photos videos action shots all this stuff and then they show you this course one hour before you start oh my goodness and like I I remember walking out going this is

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not why found it just looked like this super sized playground over pools and I was like wow I wish I'd trained but somehow I like I got to the the war wall when it was my turn and then I face planted three times like full on red lights flashing ah you know you didn't qualify through the semi-finals and I flew back to Perth but something would like something lit in me I was like I wanted to be in semi-finals I wanted to be good at this thing and I wanted to come back if there was going to be a

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season to so I really just fell in love with the process the sport the community like the people around that sort of environment were're all really like-minded people and yeah I just started like training my butt off was it mainly gymnasts or was there a mix of types of people there was definitely a mix of people that applied and then I also felt like it was a reunion for all the like the gymnasts like that was like oh hey hey hey you got the call because I think it's such an expensive production they were thinking okay we've

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built this multi-million dollar course now we need people that can get through it because you don't get to try it don't get to test it like what you see on TV is your first shot so it's pretty it's pretty daunting that's pretty intense and that's kind of the spirit of it it's like you don't know what you're going to get yeah and I I watched some of the people training for some of the international Ninja Warriors I think it was mainly the US and people have set up

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these things in their backyards and they're trying to learn how to use all the different techniques have you done anything like that like how do you train it's it's gotten so Advanced that I feel like you need everything now like when you look back at an American season 2 Ninja Warrior they're just doing some monkey bars you know they're just like jumping on a trampoline to a cargo net or something and now you've got like these 2 cm Cliffs that you land on and they spin around and like there's so

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many Contraptions within the obstacles now that I'm training high intensity I'm training cardio I'm doing rock climbing not cuz I like love rock climbing but cuz I need grip strength you know and I need finger strength like who knew that I'd to strengthen my fingers just to like maybe get through an obstacle so there's so many different aspects but I do I do touch on it's the mindset it's a big time mindset cuz you haven't tried them before you film between 9900 p.m.

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and 4:00 a.m. so it's a total flip of the mind I didn't know that yeah why do they film so late is it the nighttime lights yeah night and it's the ninja life you can't be ninja during the day doesn't work you know that's exactly only at night time we put the suits on you know but yeah it was kind of you kind of just have to keep training everything to be ready for stuff you don't know that's coming yeah so but yeah it's the mindset to deal with So when you say mindset like what are some

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of the things that might go through someone's Minds how do you remedy that obviously when you're looking at an obstacle course for the first time fear kicks in you know you could get injured what are some of the things that you have to deal with in your mind there's like when it comes to the TV shown specifically what I learned was it was important to see it it's as it is it's a TV show yeah a lot of athletes show up there and they think it's the national championships of Ninja Warrior you're

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like no like you have to do the interviews you have to make yourself a character like this is creating stories it's like engrossing those viewers into like why do they want to cheer for you kind like WWE or exactly It's Entertainment as well as as a sport yeah yes and the second you start thinking that and also relying on gratitude like CU there's tens of thousands that apply and 150 are picked but you know people might be like they fall and they're like oh poor me like well actually you're W

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150 so let's like be grateful for where we are and then when it comes that moment I think it's really important to just block out the noise because You' got lights cameras actions they're like iing you on the the starting platform I have like PTSD from the lady that stands there and goes you're on in 10 nine eight even hearing it now I'm like yeah it's it's terrifying but once you like enter that flow Zone and block out that distraction yeah I'm a very hyperfocused

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individual so yeah because you have the audience yeah you have the media you have the interview it's late at night there's a lot going on you've traveled it's a lot to deal with so you're saying that like okay part of it is like you know we're producing theater and we're entertaining the other part is we're having to train high intensity and then dealing with the pressure of that particular moment being revealed with the new obstacle course absolutely like and visualization especially with

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something you haven't like done before or tried before you have to trust the training you've done like you're not going to be there and increase your strength in the next 10 minutes you know so what can I do what can I control in this moment hey I can just set myself aside close my eyes and visualize myself going through that rout like that course a hundred times so when I step up on that platform this is my 100th and one yeah so it's all these like mindset tricks that you kind of have to work on

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CU your brain is like a muscle you got to work on it yeah and you talked about having like an a character that you develop you know I don't know if you've listened to Eminem's recent album the death of shady I grew up on so I'm like yeah and in in in some of the music he talks about how he created Slim Shady as this alternative version of himself to deal with the trauma and the stress and the anxiety have you created an alter ego to get through these moments I think 100% if I'm being really honest with

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myself yeah like I put on this character where I like I'm out there I'm smiling I'm like a little bit over the top sometimes but I know that you know it is TV and if I just was up on that platform and ignored the crowd and sort of like you know just did what I normally do I'm a little bit more like intrusive and was just like super focused on myself what kind of character am I kind of but you can be in the Olympics I guess but in something like this like you said it's a different Dynamic yeah I mean like even

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when I after season one you know B plan and go home so what what obstacle did you did you wall it's like this 4.2 M curved wall and like is it the one you have to run up at the end okay so you got through most of the course I got oh if you watch the season one it's Scrappy it's like yeah I've seen season it's a little sketchy like I don't know how I got there but I got there and yeah I'm just looking at this thing I'm like oh I could just run up it but I don't know how to run up a wall so

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I ran into it you know you think like oh if I go faster I'm so getting up there yeah gravity will help yeah no you just hit the harder but I like I flew back to Perth I Googled Ninja Warrior and Perth had a Ninja Academy who knew like so there's an actual Club dedicated to training W yeah ninja stuff and there's a warped wall in there and so I started going like once a week and twice a week and then got a membership CU it's expensive and then yeah kept training that wall took me like six months to

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just like grab the top and not slide down down I mean the best day ever when I didn't slide down but then I started thinking okay I can do this now how do I make it different how do I stand out I don't want to be that person that gets on the show and does something the way everyone else does it I don't want to just be another number so that's when I was like started thinking outside the box and you know I have done gymnastics for many years and my body can do super cool things yeah why don't I do a trick why I

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do something different so started learning this trick which is like you know this secret thing I was training yeah I went to season two I was so nervous for that heat run I was so nervous they told us that ours was the first episode to be aired so I was like no female had like hit a buzzer before yeah so I was like oh man okay there's this opportunity I could be the first female to hit a buzzer too I knew I could do this wall and have this Specky trick but before the wall there was five obstacles I'd never done before I was

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like oh my God so like yeah you definitely feel that pressure that expectation the nerves rise gets a little bit out of control and that's when you have to bring it back and go done the training I best perform when I'm relaxed on myself and I'm in the zone how do I get back into that zone so but yeah for me it was important that I wanted to just stand out and get to that wall and when I got to that wall and I got to the top and I turn around and I do this back flip over the to get up it

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oh my God the announcers lost their mind like afterwards The Producers came out of their trailer and they're like thank you you know like they're just like yeah they're like that's the hero shot that's the ad content it's the content and I imagine if you impress a team and they're like okay we got this woman here first want to hit the buzzer doing theater putting on a show creating Charisma and getting the people to cheer I think you know obviously then they would be in their best interest to try

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to get you into the next event absolutely so you're building a network you're generating relationships and you're giving everyone else what they want not just yourself abely yeah exactly it's it's bigger than you and when you realize that and you get out of your own way in your own head you can do greater things in my own personal opinion and experience but then even from there like that season I was the first and only female to make the Grand Final I was like cool like and then I

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went home and I was like why was my goal just to beat a warped War cuz I like went to Oregon State University and in America they just they don't show up for the free t-shirt ever you know gold or nothing you know yeah exactly yeah so gold or you're forgot medal or nothing you're shunned was like growing up our goal was to get to the Olympics so it was kind of like that again that mentality shift and going I don't want to just beat an obstacle I want to want to I want to beat the men I

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want to be the first female to beat the men if you're enjoying today's episode of the agency podcast please smash that like And subscribe button our team work extremely hard to produce these every single week we want to show the market what Australians are made of so if you're finding value please like And subscribe now let's dive back in and that was a is a big goal it hadn't been done before anywhere else in the world and that's that's a whole another goal that you're trying to tackle when not

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one else has done it and you feel like a delusional Optimist at times and it feels weird saying it out loud when most people think it's impossible I I heard a quote from Jim ran the other day he's he's passed away but I love his books and and one of the things he was talking about was that faith has substance to it and in his keynote he's like faith is substance it's not nothing yeah and evidence is also substance but it's also nothing but it isn't so's like well if evidence

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is and having faith can into something he's like then isn't it substance and I was like that's interesting because he's like Faith turns into ideas ideas turn into implementation and implementation turns into results 100% so it sounded like you you were trying to get a grasp of the faith that you could do it yeah first and foremost yeah then what and it's it's it's it's a hard it's an internal battle cuz we've all got our doubts and we've all got our fears that

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we kind of have to like we just have to step out of our own way sometimes and even when you start thinking it you start saying it it's a different thing you know or you write it down or you tell someone that's when you're like oh I'm slightly now accountable for my own crazy goal that I I feel it's crazy is it was it like a moment where it's like this is happening or did you start to like stack evidence like oh I I am a gymnast I did a trick I was celebrated I'm good at this I did it in 6 months do

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you start stacking evidence that support your faith I don't I'm I don't think I'm very good at looking back I don't think I'm good at like owning like where I've done this yeah cuz I'm so like what's next okay you know so you always focus on the next step I'm just kind of like what is what can I do better like what can what's the new height that we can reach sort of thing and for a moment it was like a little bit of wavering cuz you're like that's a big goal and then

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you start like thinking about what it's going to take to get that goal cuz you got to have you got to figure out the why I mean the how how am I going to get there and then you look at like what it's going to take and you're that's a lot I'm running a full-time Cafe so you still running the cafe while you're training totally while you're doing this and a relationship like it was a lot so you're like do I really have time for this um so yeah I went you know once I kind of like committed because there's

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that moment where you're like okay I'm committing to it that's that's a jump in it in itself then when your focus changes your behavior change you're like what you're doing to support and get in line with that goal changes and like rocking up to season 3 was so [ __ ] ready like I was cooked to Prime I was ready to go and again first the only female in the Grand Final and we get there and stage one is like a race against the clock that's where I fell the the previous

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year so it's kind of like you're not like fighting anyone else there's no certain amount of spots you hit the buzzer in time or you're out yeah and I was like I was God I was like good I was in my zone every obstacle was like bang bang bang I had one left and it's like a trampoline to spider jump i' done it before so the spider jump is when you have to plant against the wall that's intense dude it's cool like but it's all about the [ __ ] jump like if you cook

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the [ __ ] you're done how do you rehears that trick I've done it before like yeah you know I've done it in America and they have their spider W is like American size it's super size yeah I'm in full splits when I'm like Landing in theirs so I was like and I look back I've got a minute left yeah and I'm like oh she's golden she golden and so I start running because you have to commit there's no like I'm going to walk up to this [ __ ] it's a full send

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and there's not many steps but and you've never done it before so you're going all in on something that you've never done before in that setting yeah yeah full sand and like a couple steps in I trip over a over a mat and because I'd committed I tried to stop myself but I couldn't cuz it was too much speed and I basically just fall and stumble over this trap into the water and like yeah I just I was in I didn't want to get out I felt like my heart was like in my stomach in the

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water ladge yeah that was like a hard moment cuz you could see the opportunity there like it was there and I'd done the training I'd done the work I was in my Prime so to speak and that was that's when you like you get the dump that failure I didn't reach my own expectations or the expectations that others place on me cuz at that point being the only female in a grand final you feel all the women in Australia cheering you on you know they're kind of relying on you to to do this and so

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that's when I had to figure out my why like why why was this my goal why am I putting myself through this why am I doing this training why am I and so it took a while it wasn't like I know my why it's it's it took a while and for me it was about the the young girl it was about the young girl watching TV going if she can do it I can do it and that's that's when it was like okay like we're not going to try and beat the men we're going to beat the men it it it was a total shift it was like

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yeah that was huge for me so take take me to that moment you trip was was there a defect on the mat or something or just serendipitous moment I think I'd like to be like that mat their fault you know yeah that mat wasn't supposed to be there yeah but real that was me you take full ownership okay over the mat you yeah I should have the water yeah something but how did how did you feel in that exact moment when that happened was it shock and then reality kicks in yeah you feel you feel like you're living a nightmare

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in a sense you're just like this is not happening this is not real especially because it's TV too you're kind of like can we just go in like this they they do keep it fair in the sense there's no reruns there's no Hey Olivia it'd be way better for us if you made that can we dry you off and you go back like there's none of that it's it is pretty fair so yeah but did was that a cocktail of like like maybe embarrassment because people are watching you your friends are

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watching you you're on television it's a lot of pressure and then you feel like you've let people down and it's the letting people down I don't like letting people down yeah in a weird way does that flip into more motivation pretty quickly for you or or was that a bit of a hole to crawl out of emotionally no I think for that certain like scenario cuz you go I've you feel like you've let a lot of people down you feel I personally like on in those moments on the show feel like I let the girls down

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for me and then you realize that this show is also not going to air for another six months so you do the work like to get past it to pull yourself back up to and there's moments where you fall back and you go man like if I only had done this or I wish it was different and you keep reliving that moment again and again again and then the show is yeah it's like bring it all back to the surface again you're like you've built yourself up I'm going season 4 you know like and then you watch and you

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have to relive it and bless their hearts like bless bless bless I I I do love it but whenever I fall in the water each season all these parents and moms send me videos of their kids crying oh that's the worst it's though like why like these little girls are now making them cry I know I smile but in the like I know it's cute but like when you get so much of it you you do you're just like oh man I've made kids cry you know it is funny that's so much pressure that's so brutal it adds to the pressure if you

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choose to see it as pressure you can turn around and be like there's my why yeah there's my why if you know your why you can call on that you know yeah so yeah right so you you cut will into the water You're Building yourself back up goes live you get videos of little girls all around Australia crying from parents and you're probably in the middle of training again for season 4 yeah take me from there like how did you how did you deal with this and this is a lot of resilience a lot of pressure yeah

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yeah it is a lot and I I do felt like that got to me for sure I'm not going to lie like I was stressed I started losing my hair really and even though I felt like physically like fit and strong like like stress just like eats away at your metabolism so I was like you know dropping weight that I didn't even have so yeah but it is it's that it's it's constantly on your mind so you kind of have to find ways to separate yourself or focus on something else and between season 3 and four I sold my Cafe okay

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yeah due to the stress or no that was like I loved the cafe but I like I If a customer comes in like I see it as an opportunity to make their day I love Hospitality I'm one of those weirdos that just oh me too I love it just and the like the theater of like making someone's day the high pressure that every day is different it's changing yeah I've personally loved it and it was a very personal project for me that and a company I built from the ground up so it was special but once I figured out my

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why it was like a no-brain I was like all right I'm going to commit like 100% into this so I auctioned off the cafe and went 100 100% on this ninja journey to beat the men cuz it's not it's not it's not an easy time no did you ramp up your training and get a coach like what what did you add to your repertoire cuz it sounds like you were already training very intensely you already traveling the world and and intensely focusing on yourself what did you change in that in that period I think well for that

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particular period I think I went and did more International competitions okay went and got more experience exposure yeah yeah just like especially in other countries like America their obstacles are more advanced they're on season 16 and we're on season 4 you know what I mean so it's kind of like all right let's let's go where it's good and train there and learned from ninjas there and stuff like that so that definitely helped and season 4 we just moved to Brisbane as well cuz I was traveling a

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bit and when you go from Perth it's like we jump on a sixth flight and then we land and then we go to America as I like all right yeah and America for us is far yeah like it's not an easy trip we're talking about like 20 plus hours of communting through airports so you get pretty pretty wrecked when we travel from here to to the US yeah yeah it is a lot so we kind of made the decision to base on the East Coast okay and then I went over pretty much immediately I went to a comp in America and we're talking

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like maybe February 2020 so I get there do this comp there's like 4 and a half thousand ninjas in this one Arena it's nuts it's wild like the kids in America are just next level and then I went to a friend's place in Seattle and she was away thankfully um and I started feeling really sick like couldn't get off the couch lungs chest couldn't breathe it like like bad and then all the news is like Co and yeah cruise ships and what is going on and yeah you're on the East Coast when this

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is all taking place I flew to America so I was in America yeah and over there it was pretty intense yeah yeah it was like the OG Co yeah outbreak yeah and I was like there's a lot of fear in the media very intense so like there was a lot of fear and I was laying on a couch and pretty confident I had Co from being around 4 and a half thousand you know kids so it was that moment I was like all right just focus on my health and my recovery and what's going on and we normally film ninja end of Fe early

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March in Australia so I was like all right let's get me right and then you hear that the borders of Australia are about to you know Close book my flight back to Australia get back to Australia and I'm feeling better now but if I try and walk up some steps I can't like I'm out of breath it was pretty wild and knowing that we're going to film in about I think it about 10 days so that was like a massive mindset hurdle that I wasn't so your body wasn't quite lined up you in your mind you're like this

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needs to happen yeah I was like I'm a Zombie right how how did you decide to start dealing with that you we like you don't open up about it especially at that time when everyone's freaking out and thinking that we've now these alien creatures with Co um but I had to readjust my expectations big time yeah and I think it was actually the best thing for me because I was so overwhelmed with expectations I had on myself and what I perceive other people to have on me so for me I think

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it was the best thing that could have happened to me right so you rather than having this presupposition that like I have to perform for all these people otherwise Children Cry yeah you're like I'm not feeling great my assumption here is your mindset was like let's just show up and do our best yeah but changing your mindset to from meeting a criteria to I'm just going to give it all yeah what what changed in your mind like how did that help you well I think at the end of the day like your health is your

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wealth and we forget it we take our health for granted like every single day you know there's you you break an ankle and suddenly you're on crutches you oh man I wish I could walk you know something that we so simple that we take for granted so for me it was like all right like I'm getting exhausted very quickly I haven't trained in absolutely weeks I'm not sure if I'm going to get past the first obstacle so for me I just readjusted my own expect to go take a moment take a breath just take it one

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obstacle at a time and it like it totally did eliminate what anyone else thought of me cuz I was like physically just focusing on one thing at a time for me I wasn't thinking about a buzzer I wasn't thinking about the young girls crying you know like I wasn't thinking about anything else so yeah yeah I think that like realization that your health is at the end of the day the most important thing put me in a great head space to take it one obstacle at time and it did season four we showed up and

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it was still like we were allowed to film because we were Outdoors yeah where's a lot of the regulations in film was shutting down and stuff like that and I did took a one obstacle time and I was one of two Ninjas in the Heats to hit a buzzer wow yeah yeah and I was the first female to get to go to the Power Tower like so only was there a few but you one of yeah one of them but this run took me almost 8 minutes hey counts man I like took a breather after every obstacle I got made fun of by the other

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ninas they're like I'm just like sitting there looking at the obstacle breathing crowd's gone like mental you know and strategically I would turn to the crowd and play with the crowd cuz I'm like this breathing time yeah me yeah this is intentional yeah I love it this is a show yeah building suspense is she going to make it yeah yeah it was so it was like you know it had its benefits and then things keep shutting down like staff were leaving crowds kept getting smaller all that stuff it's weird that you sold your

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Cafe just before this too cuz had you had that that would have been tough well I mean wa let's get real did they even did they experience Co no sure they did but in their own way so yeah for me that season everything was changing it came back to a space of gratitude space of Health by the time we you know got to stage one of the Grand Final again only female I was just so locked in on these obstacles and what I was doing and just being in the zone and focusing on me that I ended up like for the first time

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hitting that buzzer at the end of stage one with seconds to go go like I cried full like full crying moment cuz you're realizing that hard work is like paying off that mental training is is paying off and I took the opportunity this time and grabbed it and we got to stage two and we had no one like there was eight of us athletes left eight nines left no crowd like there wasn't even a photographer on site like people like oh have you got photos stage no there was there was no one you could hear like the

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commentators cuz suddenly there's no crowd I got off on that platform and I was scared to fart I was like I'm going to drop one and everyone's e it's going to reverberate off the stadium you know yeah it was just so deadly quiet and I think in that run and that moment the opportunity there was was there for me but I I very much leared how much I feed off the audience like I they really I really do take on their energy and I love it and I appreciate it cuz the second they were gone suddenly it's just you and your

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brain and the second I turned to oh I'm tired like I fell you know I made one technical misjudgment and error and bang I'm in the water it's that fine yeah the line for mistakes in that moment so yeah that was a cool season yeah yeah yeah I remember watching the UFC or watching basketball games with no audience it was just strange like the sound you just kind of watching the Tokyo Olympics yeah with no crowd it's bizarre except fake crowd noises which which they totally did for Ninja too like you know it is

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editing it's the show like previous footage from like last season like yeah like it look like you're like waving to people I know it's totally wild but yeah it's it's yeah it's a different so I guess a lot of people in maybe a similar situation to this might just give in they might think to themselves this is too difficult this is too embarrassing what's this all worth you talk about having your why and having some resilience and pushing through and persevering yeah what's advice to people

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that are in a situation right now where they are facing difficult circumstances what are some go-to techniques that you resort to to get yourself out of a funk and back into a good heads space doing what you need to do that like such a great question CU I think often especially in the times that we're in we're feeling more anxiety we're feeling more over like being overwhelmed and everything's moving and changing at such a fast pace and you know there's a lot going on in our lives

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and of course we're always the center of our own Arena right so we always think like I think I really I like try and stress out to people to come back and focus on what they can control in that moment you know in those times where they're feeling overwhelmed okay we'll stop take a breath feel your feet and let's start to like change your State of Mind by thinking about what can I do not thinking oh man this is [ __ ] off you know like what was me I'm a victim everything happens to me nothing good

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ever takes place blah blah blah blah you want to try and catch yourself and and and pause and ask yourself what can I do yeah because it's it is genuinely hard in that moment to actually stop cuz all we see is red you know like like psychologic you're so caught up in the emotion you don't want to let go of it you know yeah our brain like does shut off it can't actually think solution based cuz it's so just like me me me oh my God what is going wrong this is all wrong this is where maybe more like The

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Reptilian part of the brain where it's like hyper emotional exactly we're unstable so it it is like being out to catch yourself is a skill too like self-awareness is a whole another Journey so you know do we have six hours you know so it's kind of I think in that moment it's just important to just take a breath and think about what I can control right now MH you know trying to eliminate what's out of my control and what can I do and the same goes when people like I have to do all this stuff

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but I don't know how well cool let's stop and access all the tools that we have for free like there is unlimited access to education and knowledge and tools now back in the days was not the case you wanted something to hire someone you wanted something like we're now in this age where hey sui yes exactly yeah I don't have sui gr that way was Siri yeah chat gbt I remember trying to Google stuff and it wouldn't come up but chat gbt gives it all to you right yeah so I think you know this is

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when it comes down to you know whether you're an athlete or or a business or or what have you I I like to look at you know there there's three Commodities we have yeah right the ones that are easy to talk about is time and money I don't have enough time I don't have enough money therefore I can't solve my problem but the third commodity is resourcefulness yeah right so how can you get clever with your time or with your money and for me resourcefulness doesn't mean mean you have to spend time

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or money you can leverage a network you can ask for favors you can talk to people yeah how have you been able to progress yourself using time more effectively yeah using your finances more effectively and and how do you use resourcefulness for yourself it's such a great question cuz like once you figure out like what you want yeah and you figure out okay how can I get it like asking the how and figuring out the how I think is is key because then you can system atically put this into place and

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it might be like for me you know selling the cafe gave me Financial Resources to then go okay to actually beat the men who have 300 times more power endurance than a than a female athlete like that's just fact that's just Anatomy you know they have 300 times so what do I need that's 300 times more than that like cuz I am not going to be as strong as the men it's you know unless I'm going to drugs maybe but I didn't want to go down that path yeah it wasn't wasn't for me

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you got to you know also align yourself with your own beliefs and values in order of what you're willing to do so for me it was like okay I want to go learn from the best to the best advice you know because knowledge is power like knowledge you know can affect what you're earning or how much you're earning and and and stuff so I was like okay well in Australia the men are at this level but in America they're at this level so sold the cafe used that money to financially go over to America

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and I I showed up to class like an actual class of the best of the best in America at that time and I was like teach me yeah teach me cuz for me you pay for it either way you're going to pay in time and mistakes mhm or you're going to pay money for advice like get a coach I'm a big believer in like coaching but you got to be open to listening right yeah there's a difference between I need a coach and I'm listening and deploying what my coach says exactly you know because I've

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had coaches in the past and they tell me what I need to hear and I don't do it yeah whereas now my coach is like this needs to be done and I do it exactly how he asks and I report back immediately exact and the results have been exponential yeah today's episode has been brought to you by rival my agency now if you're listening to this and you're a business owner and you're struggling on how to get your brand to go to the next level then we're offering you a free Discovery call with myself

00:43:03 - 00:44:20

and my team all you have to do is go to rival.com R IV y l.com you need a name for your company you want to do package design you need to do photography whatever it is we' got you end to end so just go to rival.com r y l.com smash the link for a free call now let's dive back in so you SE advice you went to the US who were some of the people you were working with well some of like the top ninjas unfortunately that's okay we can keep it low lowkey yeah an elite crew yeah let's say Elite crew of male athletes as well

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were you the only female student or are there others there was others but they're like 12 years old okay yeah you are I'm ready I'm an adult I'm ready you know kids I don't care like if you're the best the best I want to download you know and cuz I think with uccessful people as well they're not shy to give you knowledge true they're not shy because they know that the hardest part is actually doing it yeah they can give it to you but will you do it yeah yeah we are you actually going to commit and

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take action it's funny because people come up to me at events and ask hard questions and I roll it out for them and you just see their face go I can't do that but I'm like that's the actual answer to your question yeah you know so and for me like I'm not going to lie I [ __ ] up I made mistakes like I got that information but my motivation goes like this you know and my why it gets cloudy or I lose sight of it or I forget you know and yeah and Co and I was like I started watching gry's

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Anatomy there's a lot of seasons of gry's anatomy I think a lot of people watch gry's Anatomy yeah in that period in Co you know when another one we weren't doing anything I wasn't like taking charge or doing anything like productive I was I joined on the bandwagon of what's happening I don't know and when people be like Olivia what are you doing and I'm like I'm starting to be a surgeon [Laughter] n warri surgeon yeah so I did like I totally made mistakes and like you know

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got on the Lazy Boy a little bit and then when I sort of brought that back and you know jumped on my Y and started downloading and actually applying some of that information I started thinking about what are why don't I do what other people aren't doing cuz to want uncommon things you got to do yeah uncommon things when you were working with this elite team were you learning techniques or different approaches like what were the main things that you were able to get that you couldn't get here a lot of

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it was yeah different like maybe higher level obstacles it was techniques shoe brand okay yeah there was a different shoe like a ninja shoe that got up the wall a lot easier than other shoes interesting that stuck to a spider wall easier than other shoes you know cuz some athletes you see do perfect technique and then their feet go you're like you don't have the New Balance you know so it's kind of so what's the perfect shoe for a Ninja Warrior well it was New Balance Zante but they stopped

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producing it oh no so now they're really rare yeah so now all the ninjas are like oh my God you know the Zant I walked past someone at the airport the other day and she was wearing zantes yeah like the v3s and I was like and you knew exactly the type of person she was well no no she was just a regular like oh you're like give me your shoes I looked at her she's about my size this close man this close to be like excuse me ma'am you mind taking your shoes off and selling them to me in this

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public airport where you're probably going to jump on another flight yeah do you still have a pair oh I've got many okay yeah I was like fortunate enough to go to the new house like Warehouse oh yeah and they were selling all their V2s like cuz the V3 was coming out and I was like no like 20 bucks and I was like oh I'll just get five pairs perfect now you're ready for a couple years I should auction them off in the Ninja community but yeah I just eventually I brought that back and was like all right well we

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film we film like from Midnight like I'm normally running around midnight so why am I not training at midnight okay yeah another mindset thing maybe yeah so it was like it was kind of like all right well time to become a vampire exactly sleep all day train all night yeah I was in Brisbane at the time so like midnight would hit and I'd go out for these runs like and there's a lot of hills in Brisbane I'm telling you and I'd be out there running like pitch black and running and all of a sudden

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like this bat comes out and like all these bats were flying out cuz we don't have bats in wa like these things are monst they're all over pris and they're huge they're huge they're like their wings spands like this I loved it I was I in Batman I was like it was such a Vibe for me personally they try to fly over you for some reason I don't know why I know yeah it's like they're like psyching you out like how bad do you want it you know yeah motiv like the universe is helping you

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train like sending bats and like motivator run faster yeah totally yeah so it was like it was that application um but for me you know like the money is is important we can't like pretend like it's not it's not everything but you do need to set yourself up so you can go to America and learn from the best of the best or you know travel and compete more and open yourself up to more experience but that's what I needed to do in order to find a way to be 300 times better you know so yeah for me that was it was a

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matter of you know should I do this I have to do this yeah and once you're like then you find a way resourceful people will find a way if you want something bad enough you'll find a way so and it is time Management's huge you know we do this so often now yeah and then an hour goes by now what could I have done in that hour yeah yeah an hour invested in trying to get DOP mean from a screen or an hour invested into running from bats and trying to trying to train at night yeah so so for you it

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sounds like you have a relationship with failure right because it seems like the minute failure happens you got to pick yourself back up again like what does failure mean to you and I think in today's modern age Robert kosaki talks about how we go to school and we're taught that failure is bad you know if you fail the exam that's really bad if you can't get a certain score you can't get the job you want like failure is seen as an obstacle or a barrier between where we are and the things we want yeah

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but in my experience being an entrepreneur failure is just a stepping stone it's a part of the process oh yeah yeah I mean life is one big game of snakes and ladders it is like it's not sometimes you're up sometimes you're down yeah it's not ladders all the way that's true it is like so it's kind of like with failure like I used to be really hard on it I was afraid of it like I especially growing up in Elite Sport and how much sacrifice my family gave towards that like financially my

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brother didn't do any paid sport cuz all the money went into gymnastics like we didn't have buckets of money growing up so it was that fear of failure was real for me but in terms of I didn't want to let my family down in that sense so with failure I had to learn to see it a different way I had to learn that perspective part of it and go well I can choose to see it as the end of the world or I can choose to see it as a lesson so now we go you either win or you learn there's no there's no failure the only

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failing like is if you just don't try or you quit and stop trying so yeah it's it's a mindset sh shift and then once you do figure that out then you can look at this you know I won't even say but it's like this moment that didn't work out and go why Why didn't it work out and what can I do better how can I you know grow and learn from that so but is's a mindset shift but I mean I now say I'm an expert failure I am like even even when I'm training I still [ __ ] up

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and I professional faist yeah I am I am a professional failure true but my superpower is that I just don't quit like I don't give up I love that I always keep going so once you hit that buzzer did the mothers out there in Australia send you videos of kids cheering yeah oh man it's it's weird though cuz I get a lot of supportive message like a ton like overwhelming but it's always the kid crying that I remember yeah like why is why is that the one that I can't let go of you know um but yeah like you know

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rolling into that last season we filmed knowing that I even had an elbow injury That season but I like I was like I've done so much running at 12 at 12: a. and going in there and yeah I didn't need eight minutes to get through a course in fact it was a 10 obstacle course and I didn't stop not once I felt so cardio fit so in the zone so mentally like there got to the end and for the first time the first and only female in the world to to beat all the men in hitting that buzzer even though it's one

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second I'll still take it like one second that moment was like it was huge that was that was like that dream that once like seemed crazy had just had just made that a reality and it didn't sink in for a while I don't think it sunk in that night for sure I think the next day and then what I started realizing once that aired was the you're such a great role model like and because I think especially you know you know king of Brands here like when you talk about Brands it's not really about what you think you are like

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it's it's what they think you are right like it's what you represent like so do you feel like you had a brand now implanted in the market right you have this story arc of someone who's you know a professional failure now you know succeeded and inspired people what was the gravity of that now that you've accomplish that did you feel the need to sustain it did you feel that the pressure was more to come back and do it again well this they stopped filming after that season so I was kind of like

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well I don't I didn't feel the that pressure to come back you felt like you accomplished it and at least you did it before it stopped yeah totally got it in you know yeah yeah but it wasn't like so much of like oh I did this great thing because again I still like struggle with going I did this thing it's I think that's Again part of how I was brought up but I started like more so thinking about like what that means um and then once you I think especially when you reach a certain

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level of success like you want to help other people because like that was so cool and then you see gaps in society whereas like for me now I noticed like how much the girls on social media and they're having body dysmorphia and mental health issues and the comparisons that they're going through um like for me I see that as a real issue and I understand I'm starting to understand better what that role model brand can do and so you kind of go okay well now I've done this great thing athletically in ninja and you know

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recently I just went and competed in Japan which was the original Ninja Warrior it was like yeah that oldtime goal so I've like ticked off all these goals that I wanted to like achieve but now I'm kind of like how can I help other people how can I give back more so like just almost finished writing my first book and wow you just like you start thinking outside the box of how do I Inspire more people without a TV show yeah you know so yeah you just you keep going to what what's the next step

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what's the next Mountain that helps other people in a sense so you're writing the book and what else are you obsessed with right now more learning okay yeah like CU I think knowledge like is a real tool it's a real asset and we we struggle because I think we don't we often don't think of ourselves as an asset like like in reality we're more likely to help other people before we help ourselves so you know like when you say you're an asset like unpack that what do you mean I think you know we

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need to invest in ourselves like if knowledge for example is huge knowledge can bring you more money knowledge can bring you more time you know it's like the more we know the more we can do or the more we can help or the more we can contribute to something um you know if someone has the knowledge and someone wants the knowledge hey there could be a financial transaction there so that's interesting I I remember reading recently there was a study done and it was a correlation between someone's

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income level and the amount of words they use in their vocabulary and the average human would have between 4 to 8,000 words in their vocabulary that they would actively use however they found that people that could attribute to over 14,000 words in their vocabulary not only made more money but had a higher acute sense of awareness and could solve far more complex problems yeah and I went down this rabbit hole and I started realizing that the more the more powerful your vocabulary is the actual more powerful

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your mind gets at figuring out how to solve problems W it's like every time you learn a new word and what it means and how it fits into a sentence and the whole construct behind the word your brain starts to like put these different concepts together it's not like you're thinking in words but you're thinking in concept and I've certainly felt like since I've started reading a lot more material and understanding a lot more about different things my ability to solve problems as a

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strategist has like quadrupled yeah have you found that for yourself have have there been certain moments where you've really digested a lot more and then all of a sudden you're looking at problems very differently oh absolutely because everything is put into a different perspective and you shift from this mindset you used to have which was quite blocked off and you know like it's kind of like the horse with the you know the little Shutters on the side or it's limited or it's smaller and you do you

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shift into this space and you know you realize that well actually there's a lot of tools that we could help Pro solve that problem with or well this is what this is missing or you you just you do you become a lot more aware not just of yourself but other scenarios and other problems and how to solve it so yeah it is a total mind shift isn't the learn learning but for me personally like I'm a slow learner me too I'm laughing at you cuz I'm the same cuz I got kicked out of high school I went to you know I was in

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and out of foster care in and out of tons of different schools and I never liked reading until like four years ago when I really started to take it seriously and I'm slow as hell but I think that's what makes it fun is like there's no you don't need to be fast oh yeah you just need to be progressing terrible reading books like like The Hunger Games got me cuz I was like Bang Yeah I think I watched the movie The First movie and I was like I have to read these books cuz I have to know

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what's next cuz I'm impatient like that I just have to know so but otherwise like I really struggle reading books and even like writing my own loving the writing process but I've already got plans on how I want it printed to suit the learning style that I have like so it's kind of it's fun like that but once I do learn something bang it's a tool like it's in there and I'm going to use it so yeah I think for you you certainly seem like someone always has a mountain

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they want to climb you know whether that involves bats or midnight training what what's the next Evolution for Olivia look like I think we'll keep learning and keep growing because I do you know I'm starting to shift into that mindset of realizing that I am an asset and which was it's very difficult for me personally because I grew up in an Institute with Russian coaches who said I was worthless like six days a week we're talking 10 sessions a week going you're not good enough this isn't good enough like

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you're not going to amount how old were you I was 9 and a half 10 wow yeah and we got that for years and I was I was a kid I didn't know this was wrong or like you don't you're bra still developing but your brain is still developing and so like without knowing those neurop pathways are getting ingrained for so for many many years like and like even today it's a constant work on selfworth for me cuz I was told and taught the opposite for so many years growing up even though I know it's not true like

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it's intrusive it's 100% intrusive like but I'm an adult now like I can't go poor me poor I I was raised in this environment I'm an adult I've got choice I can choose my mindset so that's something for me that I'm getting better at because it's not it's not [ __ ] easy yeah and I think this is one of those things where it's like it's you know it's not your fault that that happened to you you're nine right how how can you possibly have the awareness

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but how you respond to it is completely up to you yeah when you talk about what what I term is like the victim mindset which which is like this happened to me therefore I'm you know somewhat in a defe mindset about it yeah how do you and how can people overcome this how how do you first become aware like maybe I have a victim mindset and and second how do you start to pull yourself out of that that's a really great question because I have gone through that process once I realized cuz for for a long time

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I was ignorance is bliss baby like personal growth [ __ ] like self awareness don't want it yeah yeah what's a book going to tell me I don't already know I'm the smartest of life you know so for a long time I was ignorance is bliss and then then you start like learning about yourself and that's of like for me that was an an athlete like a documentary came out on Netflix called athlete a and all my teammates were like have you watched this so I'm like I love watching stuff

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is it a book no okay I'll watch it um is there visuals yeah and so downloaded it and watched it and it was it was our childhood like in this documentary I was like wow that's how we grew up so it was like that holy [ __ ] moment and then you know getting a psychologist to help unpack that and learn about my own brain and then I did learned about this environment grow up in and then I went to the poor me poor I it's not my fault and it was like sort of maybe in the last two years that I've gone I'm

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learning now that I am an adult I can choose this now like cool I've gone through that and I'm proud of that like it's not easy to start that personal development Journey at all but I get to choose so for people when I you know if I'm talking to them or encourage them to start thinking about themsel start thinking about maybe just their wise or their mindset or how are they reacting and how are they thinking like is that comment or phrase is it helping or is it hurting is it you know are you blaming

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are you shaming or like are you being supportive are you being positive are you being optimistic are you problem solving are you taking accountability and also I think sometimes just having some love for yourself oh yeah you know like you know having gone through trauma as a child like sometimes you just could be like dude you're doing pretty well like you're okay man like you're out here making stuff happen like surely you know you're dealing with your stress and your problems but like have a bit of love for

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yourself sometimes you got to give yourself a little hug yeah you know tell yourself it's going to be okay tell yourself to pull you pull your straps up and let's keep marching ahead yeah yeah absolutely like it's it's funny because I'm a big supporter of other people like I will be someone's biggest cheerleader but then I struggle will be my own cheerleader so yeah like you got to kind of work on your weaknesses but yeah I do like encouraging people how do you like to cheerlead

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yourself it's an icky topic but yeah um I think for me cuz I'm a visual learner MH big time so it's it's just it's reminders and whether that like be in places that you see every day you know like it'll be your phone screen saver something like this you know how many times a day do we open up our phone and if you're like bang you are awesome so feed your social media feed with cool stuff I heard I heard Gary ve talks about this he's like when I open my phone man it's kittens and puppies

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and like funny videos and I've taken that seriously I've started curating my feed and it's like now full of like David goggin's running it's like you know motivational stuff that gets me pumped up to go oh David's out here running through a desert I'm surely I could be doing something better with my time right now he's coming to per in November actually I can't wait I can't wait it is and su's always listening man she she'll feed you what you're talking

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about don't worry she got you but it is like for me it's like visual visual cues and reminders and it might be like something inspirational but also like the reminding of the why cuz sometimes we see someone doing something amazing and then we compare why isn't my life like that you know like to start like in a positive way being like I'm inspired by that not I'm threatened by that so yeah it is for me it's visual cues just to because life is busy life yeah life Life's a lot life

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we're all out here doing our best yeah now when it comes to having a public profile and being on television I imagine that you get all kinds of crazy characters coming out of the Woodworks throwing their opinions at you how do you deal with negative attention and feedback especially on social media and has that evolved over time totally I think like growing up wanting to perform and be a gymnast doing perfect like I was all about pleasing people and making people happy that was a big part of who

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like I thought I was for sure and how I acted I was you know I got bullied for having red hair in high school as as we all do as all the redhe heads do but I started dying my hair like every color except black black you know but it was it's funny like you can dye it blonde or brown or whatever everyone still knows you're a redhe head you know I still know so for me it's it's like a it was a it's a transition that I have to constantly work on CU if you are in the public eye you get scrutiny like you

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get judgment no matter what you do you're going to get judged so it's handling that and dealing with that and again it's a mindset shift from from oh my God you know Sally thinks I'm a show off yeah you know why do I care what Sally thinks you know like Sally's behind a computer sitting there not doing what I'm doing so it is that like it's that questioning do I care what that person thinks or you know like am I doing my own thing yeah you know what am I what's my why so yeah I season two

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like when I was successful and showing off and doing a backflip yeah sure I got Sally [ __ ] Ranger showing off you know it's it's like that's the red that's what you get in Americans get Ginger I was like I would have loved been called a feels a little bit more polite than than Ranger yeah but yeah it's it is like a like you could just own it like cuz when you realize that it's hurt people that hurt people true they're going through something yeah they're just taking out on you

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because they're angry about something they feel the need to try and tear you down and in Australia especially we have this tall poppy syndrome I hate it can't stand it maybe that's my next Mountain yeah is to tackle the tall poppy I'm with you on that mountain dude death death to tall poppy syndrome but that's I think again finish it yeah I know it's just like why are we not supporting these amazing people like yeah like the amount of hard work that they've put in to get get there like why are we not

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going I love that so yeah it was that mentality cuz before like I was I was I was reading the comments and then I started feeling really down and [ __ ] and yeah you you feel like not enough and you feel like yeah so it's that's yeah I I can only understand like what high school students and what people are going through with social media it's it is a lot it's rough man and I think one I saw recently I had to laugh at this cuz I was like that's just that's just hilarious someone wrote to me on

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LinkedIn they said on a on a post where I was talking about marketing and branding they said who's this idiotic tick tocker and what the hell does he know about branding and and for a moment there I was like well I'll show you you know like I'll send you my portfolio of the brands I built and you know it kicks in but I caught myself quickly and I'm like oh hang on a second this person actually doesn't even know who I am they haven't done any research they haven't looked

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into me at all they've just seen a video gotten triggered by it and they think I'm a Tik tocker and you know I think if we attach to the positive or the negative it it'll sway either the way you know and I wish I said this but Gary V said to try not to attach to the booze or the cheers just do you yeah and lean into what you're great at yeah it's kind of like you know you are that Warrior inside a stadium do you care what that fan is screaming at you like do you want to be in their seat or you

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want to be in your seat like yeah it is it's once you kind of like you know click into that person's profile and notice they have zero followers you know you know all they're just like you know why am I why am I getting so upset by this one comment why am I so affected by this that's why I love the question why you can attach it to anything yeah I mean psychologists have been doing it for years right what do you think so if someone writes a hateful comment you just say why no you can go like normally I like

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either I don't even spend the time on it to be Hest neither I don't I just don't even get I have the time why why would I invest my time yeah into this you know there's so many more things I could do with time cuz that's the one thing we all get the same no matter who you are we don't get more time like got 24 hours a day how are you spending that so yeah I think so before you talked about your why and that's you know to help little inspire little girls yeah yeah how do

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you want to be remembered I think it how do I want to be remembered it is a it's a great question because that's like comes down to your legacy that's your like your bigger obligation you're bigger why and I think for me it will I think what sits true is is the role model not only just like she's a good role model but she can Inspire other the role models because I believe that anyone can be a role model you don't need to be on TV you don't need to be an Olympic gymnist you don't to be a ninja

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warrior like you know moms and dads are the greatest Role Models they're spending the most time with their kids like and how are they acting how are they speaking cuz kids are sponges man they'll just they'll soak it up so I like if everyone started thinking of themsel as a role model to their friends to their colleagues to the gym space like whatever they're doing whatever they're in like how are they influencing other people because people look we we look we learn we observe we judge we

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yeah so I think yeah that's where I like dive deeper in the future is as along that everyone's a role model sort of Legacy it's a beautiful answer what's a quote or a mantra you've carried with you on your journey that you wished everyone listening to this would immediately Implement m there's like there's been a few and they thrown at you at different moments in Life or at least you hear them and you absorb them and you relate to them at different moments in your life I think

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for one even as a kid even as a kid like who who's this little kid but like I in my mind I was like we only get one life and so for me it was like attack every goal you you set I can reframe that second part I was like maybe like 12 years old when I thought of that but the whole like you know we're here once like along that line like why are you not I'll refine it because it's yeah it's true we only get one life yeah we only get one life and you know I try to you know I Tred to I try to bring in

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gratitude where possible and I saw a video recently from lwis house and he said that you know he's just sitting in a sauner or something he's just talking to a camera and it's just a great piece of content he just said did you know that 100 50,000 people died today and they would give anything yeah to live your day today yeah what are you going to do with it yeah exactly I know you know immediately I was like I'm going to the gym I'm going to go do something you know yeah the whole like

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you're living someone's dream right now yeah someone else wants to be in your seat Bang Yeah that's their dream yeah yeah it it does cuz it brings you back to perspective like the reality is like there's Wars going on there Are People Dying like without choice they don't have choice they don't have freedom like it's the reality in Australia man we got it cushy all right we do like you don't you know people live on the doll we support people like we really do have it

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cushy in terms like in like in perspective to the other like other countries stuff like that so yeah it is yeah it is yeah yeah sometimes a little bit of gratitude goes a long way gratitude's huge when you you wake up in the morning or at midnight what keeps you going the bats man the bat the bats man we need to work on this Brands I'm thinking of a shoe brands with bat symbols on it yeah being a supporter I love it I know a guy who could build this Brands yeah what was the question I was thinking about the

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bats yeah bats and and shoes at this point um when you wake up in the morning or midnight what keeps you going this would be great if I had a cough sponsor like insert insert anyone's listening to this and you're invested in coffee coffee we're looking for sponsors myself included no I think yeah the why well because Mr Beast keeps sending sorry Logan Paul keeps sending you prime yeah and and you're not interested in that no offense I love the hydration all about it like the energy drinks like yeah I

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just don't need him man what keeps me in bed is a question but coffee we need coffee breads yeah no what keeps me going I think it's always the bigger obligation for me or that bigger reason that bigger why to help and Inspire and motivate other people I think and that just comes from my own experience and I did have people telling me I couldn't do it and I wasn't enough and and stuff like that so you always send to like draw on your experiences and what how that shapes you and how

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that makes you want to change the world move moving forward so yeah for me it's just well those people aren't out here doing spider jumps and chasing bats at midnight so who cares about those people so what's a door you need to kick in right now to go to the next level as a role model that's a fantastic question what door do I need to kick in for me I think personally I need to keep learning and that's you know that's again it's not something that I've loved doing in the past but I

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realize how important it is to get you know to get to the next level to help other people on a greater scale um what's something you're trying to learn multiple things cuz there so many like different aspects of life you know you've got business you've got Health you've got love you got relationship you got family connection all this different things so for me I'm learning a little bit more about business CU I believe that I've never been like money focused but money is a

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tool and like if I want to say help more people let's say I want to set up a charity that helps young girls in sport because I believe in sport it teaches us teamwork and Leadership resilience and lesson un L girls are doing it so it's kind of if I want to help that on a greater scale hey I need some money you know if I want to set up a charity that helps out I need money it might not be like my motivator but those young girls are my motivator so why am I not doing everything I can to help them on a

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greater scale so for me at the moment I'm learning a whole bunch of different stuff about life and about business um yeah perfect well I got some people I'd like to introduce you to in that case regarding you know things around charity and acquiring Capital but I just love your story I love your heart I love your your focus and your why and just yeah how much energy you've given to things that you find that bring you Joy and you know continue to feed you to reach for more and I think to pursue knowledge is

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a great way to see life and I think that every time I've invested in books or courses or seminars or coaching you know there's never been bad outcome in my case no but some people just don't see the value in it in a sense straight away and again I think that's especially in Australia we struggle seeing ourselves as an asset and as an investment you know it's kind of like you'd sh to dinner oh man so I'm late at the personal trainer I'm trying to get like bigger quads or whatever your friend

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would be like that's awesome man I should get a personal trainer yeah know I want bigger quads yeah yeah or if you showed up in the new butt right stuff train you just need some bat yeah you don't need you don't need butt dude you need you need like quads but it's like if you showed up and you're like 30 minutes you're I'm so sorry I was I was with my psychologists they're like crazy you know it's it's just the way that we sort of view ourselves and um the you know we we think personal

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develop is worth the investment you know is it worth dropping this amount of money for education or self-help or that development or should you go like you know buy a new bathroom renovation and how we celebrate that you're like oh you're renovating your bathroom that's awesome how about I'm renovating myself that's a good perspective right CU for me I think personal development there's a lot of you know gimmicks and and and you know Trends and all that kind of stuff out there and I try to stay away

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from I always try to come back to like the fundamentals like how can I build relationships and how can I become a better more confident individual and then invest in my health and get smarter with finances do you have like some go-to books that you felt that you got a lot from or a particular coach or seminar that really helped you books not yet not yet maybe an audio podcast or anything in particular I think for me me it was unfortunately for me it took a scenario of like realizing that my childhood was maybe not great in

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terms of that so then it was for me it was just reaching out to experts like a psychologist they had more answers than I did you know they've gone through years and years and years so it's kind of like oh I could go on this journey of spending years and studying psychology or I could pay someone to help me unload and unack that a lot faster but then there was also the trust aspect of is this the right psychologist for me is this the right person and dropping the shame around seeing a psychologist and

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dropping the shame around hey maybe I need to try three or four until I find someone that true clicks um cuz I the first time I stepped in like literally he was like Olivia tell me why you're here it's like in the movie he like oh this is cliche yeah it was so cliche but I was like I don't know and that was my on like honest genuine answer I didn't know CU again ignorance was Bliss to me so I hadn't done any work in unpacking any of that so yeah what what have you seen the benefits been of having a

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psychologist uh if you'd asked me at the start of that journey I would have been like don't [ __ ] do it it's hard cuz digging into your your life it can be painful yeah and i' done a lot of work to shove that [ __ ] down deep you know like there this expanding jar that I've like concreted down so it was like understanding that it's going to be uncomfortable and that's and that it's okay like it's okay and so like even talking to other people be like maybe the first step is just talking to

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someone and it doesn't need to be a psychologist like maybe you find someone you trust maybe some you find someone you respect um and just start that process cuz it's hard it's so hard going I'm really struggling it's really it's hard it's not a comfortable place to be in no in particular I think maybe slightly more so for men yeah to be vulnerable and to let someone in yeah and myself you know I think yeah having in my youth psychologist was tremendously helpful to me with my psyche and overcoming trauma

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and even recently just different coaches in my life just being willing to go hey this is actually what's happening actually how I feel and I don't have the answers yeah where should I go there's power in that yeah and I think in that vulnerability you might feel weak yeah but you know beyond that once you can put yourself in that vulnerability and actually own it yeah and then start to work with someone to navigate a path out of it totally things work out yeah yeah but I mean like there's also you address

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the people that may do that they take that step right they like say something and then that person goes shut up and get on with it so there's also like cuz I had a lot of that growing up so then you have to again you know people retract and go that didn't work and again like that's where the whole like the never giving up like what can you control you know try again oh that was a that was a failed response who else can I talk to you know so it is but it that takes a lot of Courage I

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would agree and have you heard of the different levels of activity from Grant Cardone and he has like this cool concept and he says that there's multiple levels of activity the first level is you know the do nothings they never do anything they're just completely isolated on an island of Unto themselves and they don't take action toward any any possible obstacle called yeah then there's the person who's actively retreating running away from all their problems and and intentionally trying to

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use escapism to get away from actually dealing with the [ __ ] they have to deal with the yeah I've been there right I've been a do nothing I've been a retreater and the third level of activity is the normal what's seen as universally acceptable what's seen as reasonable what's seen as like you know don't burn yourself out that kind of that kind of thing and then he said then there's the extreme level of activity it's all out whatever it takes gold or nothing

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mentality yeah and for me in business you know I've been at every level and surely you can't stay at that you know go for gold non-stop like it's hard to maintain that it's like trying to have a car and keeping that thing at 200 km an hour for 10 years yeah you have to turn the thing off every now and then yeah for you how do you make sure you stay in Massive Action where needed how do you pump yourself up to to get into that state yeah that's such I mean there's different there's different like ways

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and levels and you know for everyone it seems to be different as well I think for me it kicked into that next level once I understood my why and it's fine like not everyone will know it and it also changes and that's okay too it doesn't have to be the same reason you're doing something so for me it was reminding myself of the why cuz there's [ __ ] there's days when that alarm goes off and you're like [ __ ] the bats you know or just like you're just like I can't be [ __ ] or I don't want to I

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don't feel good I'm tired I got so much other stuff to do you know I got to do all this work as well I got to pay the bill like there's so much life that just compiles or you let some fears jump in and the doubts creep in is this even going to happen is this possible like like my brother you know so it's a reminding yourself of the why cuz that's when you ask yourself why am I doing this it's bigger than myself like and like for everyone it could be different they're motivated by different people

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Some Money Motivated some are goals some are learning motivated some are people motivated um so also understanding what is motivating you you can use that on yourself as well there's no one true way totally there's no but also I find it really helpful when you bring other people on board cuz no one ever gets there alone that's true it is like it took a community to get me to where I am an absolute Community had you have to rely on other people and trusting other people's difficult but you need good

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people around you because you're the average of The Five People You Keep around the most I would agree wholeheartedly Bang yes and S like right now I feel like you know espe learning something new right now I genuinely feel like I'm the dumbest person in the room and I love it that's a powerful position to be in yeah yeah I've recently started to force myself to go into rooms where I feel super stupid yeah yeah like I was in a room recently with like Capital raisers and investors and people that

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own acquisition businesses and I'm like I know nothing and I'm just absorbing like a sponge yeah and then your brain's like mushing everywhere cuz it comes out your nose which is uncomfortable if you felt on top of the world at something and then you throw yourself in an environment where you feel silly yeah yeah yeah it's a good one it's good one to keep you accountable and keep pushing you towards where you want to go um but there there's also moments where you do need to give yourself Grace you do need

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to celebrate the wins even if they're small cuz it's important like we do like feeling acknowledged and and loved and worthy and if you can give that to yourself when there's not others around to give it that's pretty powerful too well said now last question for you when and where will people be able to get access to your book ooh that's a great question I need to like put myself a hard deadline hey hold myself accountable I'm hoping it comes out next year okay that's what I'm going to say and the

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Optics are being updated at the moment we'll have all that going and I'm doing public speaking motivational speaking all that jazz that comes along with it but I'm excited I'm excited to help more people but I've got a question for you just cuz I I just love like I love knowing what do you feel like your why is at the moment in like your moment in time cuz it of course it changes throughout yeah my why like flips and changes and evolves and all the rest of it for me right now I'm really obsessed

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over helping people actually overcome the the fear between them and creating their personal Brands yeah that that's something I get a lot of Joy from is actually seeing ideas go from infancy into fruition and the more I can trigger that the better the books helped with that the online course has helped with that the public speaking has helped with that the big why is just literally seeing as much of that consistently as possible yeah selfishly you know for me it's family it's being able to you know

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have my kids be able to go hey Dad can we go to like America for a trip I'm like yeah yeah like I want to be able to create so much freedom for my family in the coming years that that they get to see the world and they get to experience life to its fullest in their childhood yeah that's something that gets me super pumped is is seeing my kids happy yeah yeah I love that so much so I got my business why and I got my personal why and then little things like you know I want a nice house a nice car you know

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