From Public Housing to Millionaire Success | Bradley Gimbert

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we often hear this concept around people being a victim there's always reasons there's always like a million reasons and valid reasons and valid uh options that don't give you what you want but you got to live with that if you can truly say that you've tried everything then great but I think Bradley gimbert is the CEO and founder of indigenous wealth in a year outside of jail you end up buying your parents a house I was adopted though uh wanted to do it because I wanted to be adopted kid that

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Bo adopted paren house that's it you're looking at this as like I want to play by the same rules I want this to be as legitimate as possible your company's called indigenous wealth and and the mission is to make 100 plus abigal millionaires by 2025 a lot of people believe that making money and all this sort of stuff is for rich people like opposite you know rich people are rich because Bradley welcome to the Pod man D thanks for having me man excited to have you here and um we're nearing 50

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episodes on the Pod so far and I think your story is one of the most magnetic captivating intense um stories of adversity I think I've heard uh and um just excited to unpack it with our audience and I think you know to date it's probably the most uh probably the most nly story I've heard in quite a long time thank you I'll take that that's a that's a good WP yeah right yeah and I think you know um we were talking about this before the pod which is um often times you know sometimes

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there's a lot of beauty within adversity yeah uh and as dark and ugly and and Grim as it can be um you know some sometimes we can take superpowers from those things we can turn them into strengths and we can we can actually do a lot of good in the world with what we've experienced 100% one of the things I I wanted to kind of cap off and I think this is kind of an interesting story uh is that you have a love and passion for boxing I do yeah I love boxing uh how do I get into boxing actually I got into boxing uh when I was

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a kid because I was getting picked on at school I was actually getting bullied uh for mainly for being abigal but for a bunch of [ __ ] um but I think it was sort of the time of the everyone you sort of pick on each other but I was hyper sensitive about it because there was so much [ __ ] going on in my personal life um like at that time I got into boxing we' had just been moved into Housing Commission off the back of like 3 years of couch surfing and sort of being homeless and living in refuges and just really struggling and

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then when we got to Housing Commission that was like our first bit of normal uh first by the way our normal like when we got to that house there was like a dead dog in there that was used syringes like it was [ __ ] it was it was a mess and so we got that cleaned up finally got like there got moving and went to school start getting picked on I remember being like you know my family never like they were like oh someone's picking on your school beat his ass like take care of that [ __ ] yeah and I

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was like a nerd like like I don't know you know and they're like yeah beat the [ __ ] out of him otherwise I'm going to be the [ __ ] out of you I'm like all right well [ __ ] this anyway so I go to school and uh had a fight with this kid and I remember sort of uh we had a bit of a fight but it didn't do anything I kept getting picked on like I didn't cause any damage like I just kept getting picked on just got worse yeah just got worse like you can't even fight so keep picking on him so that didn't

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really work uh so I got into boxing started going really well how old were you at the time 14 I 13 uh 13 when I started in there 14 to 9 months is the youngest you can fight um I fight I fought that at 489 months and then I oh no what was that must have been about 14 then just before I turned 14 cuz I was only doing I was doing it for about a year and then then I got into fighting had a fight um and yeah then I [ __ ] just loved it fell in love with it man after actually lost my first three fights which is usually people quit

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after that but I was like I'm just happy to be here then fourth fight I had I fought for a State title and I won wow yeah I was state champion and then um at 14 at 14 yeah yeah but other 14 year olds you know I but still the 14y old yeah I was like yeah sweet then I went in the newspaper like it all went started pretty well um everything's going pretty cool oh actually funny no sorry I've glaz over that so with boxing how I know the story this want to hear about so basically I went to uh I was a

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little Street kid I was got into boxing because I was being picked on at school started going to that little class um I also started [ __ ] being a bad little being bad little [ __ ] and I started getting in trouble being a little Mong yeah and they put me on the police program at the PCYC there uh and it all just was marrying up of the world I was the weekend with some of my bad little Street kids who used to always get me in [ __ ] trouble um they jumped a cab I was in the middle of the cab and then uh

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they jumped out and I'm [ __ ] stuck in the cab trying to get out and they I'm stuck in the cab right this guy driving off he's like I'm going to [ __ ] take you to the police station they did a runner and they ran yeah they ran and I'm stuck in the cab and I'm cuz I'm you know little hopeless I remember just being like what am I doing so I'm like oh and then get stuck lost my shoe anyway so he drives he's like he's yelling at me in Indian he's like I'm

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going to take you to the police station I'm pretty sure and then he takes me uh around the corner so in L Park there's [ __ ] police everywhere so there was a there's a cop car parked yeah pulls up behind the cop car just by coincidence the cop car is at the trainer's House of the boxing club and he's outside drunk fighting his neighbor [ __ ] like this is your boxing coach my boxing coach yeah at Blacktown I'm not going to say his name but he's he's a legend shout out shout

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out T anyway so he's like uh he's like uh having an argue with his neighbor comes up to the cab and he's like what are you doing kidnapping kids starts trying to fight the trying to fight the the cabbie pays the cabbie gets him out and then he's like oh I remember you from [ __ ] boxing he's like make sure you're [ __ ] there on Monday actually matter of fact I'm picking you up and then he's trying to sell to you in the middle of all this drama he's like oh yeah like cops are there like we can't

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we don't even know what's going on everyone just piss off basically and then he took me into his house having a barbecue then he took me back over there and so that that really encapsulated me from there um but I'm pretty sure that little moment was sort of there to save me cuz I sort of was doing the right thing doing the boxing going down these path and also doing the wrong thing you know and then that little had a yeah sort of had a marrying up of those sort of Worlds and it's like what do you want

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to do you want to be the [ __ ] kid in the cab or you want to be at boxing you know and so that really got me like a bit on a straight path I stopped really mucking around I still had the same mates and stuff but I wouldn't get into any of the stuff like there was even period there like I hanging out with mates and they would be breaking in houses and stuff but I wouldn't go into the house I'm like I refused I know this is not going to be like I'm not going to but I'm still with you like I'm still

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your friend I'm just going to but I'm not going to be doing that [ __ ] you know um and so yeah boxing was really got me on the shade and hour even though it got me all this fighting ability that inevitably got me into fights and then I ended up getting put in jail for fighting it's been the greatest life teacher for me and like mentor and guidance and constant teacher yeah and you said you went to jail for fighting I did so basically what had happened was when I was uh how old was I 19 so when I

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just sort of breached the peak of what I was thinking was my real estate career so work to get myself out of uh laboring and terrible jobs into a good career path like property investing what I really wanted to be doing worked and got to this like Tip Top point in my career which has gone extremely well um in L Park the area that I was living in there was like there was this sex offender dude that basically I already I already bashed him once oh [ __ ] because he used to follow my girlfriend home right and

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so then just a few years later um he got caught trying to break into my niece's bedroom God and um I was like ah you know literally I was just like oh it's this [ __ ] guy again he's the SE P [ __ ] this dude already bed him whatever I'll sort it out I'll go down there I went down there to sort of uh approach him and we're arguing through the door and so long story short end up like [ __ ] this gun rip his door sorry rip his door off and go in his house and Bash him so that's what I got charged for ripping

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his door off and going in his house bash because that's obviously that's like that's home invasion you can't do that yeah you case wondering not a small crime yeah know that I do that yeah did you know that yeah so but he the moment you you pissed I'm going to take care of this guy [ __ ] this you know I'm arguing with him through the door and I'm like come outside like whatever and he's just like no [ __ ] off I wasn't [ __ ] doing anything I how do you know what I mean

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for we had this argument and I just like you know what you smart I'll just come in there and I just [ __ ] broke his door down and yeah Bel [ __ ] out of him can't do that but uh so that's pretty much what I got locked up for but the jail case was going on for a while and my sentencing date had come like right at that point so I was working being uh in this new company uh become so got in the call center this was like my golden ticket I was like this is everything I wanted I've got a career path ahead of

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me I worked uh like my ass off for that first six months and become the youngest BDM in the company's history I still Liv an Ask commission I was like by far the poorest and also by far now the youngest to ever do it how old were you at the time 19 wow that's incredible 1920 might 1920 right on thereabouts but I was [ __ ] young ass even the boss was like mate there's no way I can't can't give you cuz no backtrack what had happened was when I went into the interview they show they show you the whole company

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progression on the board right and they're like you know you can start here work off you can become here they make two 300 Grand a year you you can make a lot of money and I'm like how do you get there and he's like well you know work at the call center I'm like what's the shortest anyone's ever done it he's like well six months you know but you got to break you records and stuff like what are the records I'm just like pushing this guy to a thing I'm just curious and

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he's just like well you know these are the records and so he's just giving me all the kpis like without knowing and I'm like all right great 6 months got to do this got to do that my mate Cen shout out colen he's [ __ ] [ __ ] of sales right he's got to boxing and [ __ ] so he was the only one working in there when I got there and so the B was so [ __ ] l so it was good I'll be C but yeah yeah sh that so we come there was another guy ear he done the same thing but we just

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come in and smashed it and then I was like all right six months is up like let me do the BDM thing he's like oh mate you need to get more experience off like mate you know I wouldn't have took the job living in House Commission I would have took the job if I knew that like and so he's like all right um I'll give you a chance gave me a chance I'm on bail I sat a few meetings the third meeting I sat it was a undercover cop I sold him he's like I'm in I mean what you been ja no so yeah and um yeah and so

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that's how I got into that and I sort of established myself so did he actually he bought yeah I got him to pay he paid like 16 Grand so an undercover cop paid 16 Grand to a to a someone on Bale and that's how I started my real estate career and that's pretty much what I'm here today so shout out the guy put you in jail was your first client different cop but yeah not too far away it from a different beat but yeah same same same situation yeah that's it's just that's that's a gives

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you lemons right you make lemon yeah it's a funny like it is a funny Journey we we'll say you know so you were 13 felt like you're a bit of a nerd getting picked on 14 learn how to box uh and then got quite good at it won a championship um and then you know got into some [ __ ] with some other teenagers uh caught in the cab so on and so forth but then you know for you like has boxing remained something consistent throughout that entire period yeah absolutely actually until like the last

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probably two years where business has really been like [ __ ] full on right uh it's been something that's been a constant I still try and get down to the gym but it's never never never enough to like my boxing bag is still in the locker at the gym but it's been it's been a unattended for a month you know so it's like whenever you get the time I'm in the boxing gy boxing gym I don't really follow like any other sports just follow boxing i' really the only thing

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that I love or like in terms of sports very individual all that sort of stuff but in terms of uh it's been the greatest like life teacher and why I like it and resonated it's because it's just you in there you know it's just you it's all up to you and when you strip it all back every sort of endeavor in life it is just you like you're born alone you die alone a lot of people take that as like a negative I see there like a positive like that's the one constant it's the one thing that you can always

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control it's the one thing that you always got like your your finger on the pulse of like how's that going and is that in the best shape or or form that it needs to be cuz from that that's the center of everything if that's doing really well then it's crazy how it works but it's just everything else seems to be going pretty well as well internally if it's all going haywire doesn't matter what opportunities you've got Seen On Your Horizon could be the best in the

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world um but it's never it's never going to come to full fruition because you're you know you're not you're not looking after yourself or you're relying on others to do it so it's uh yeah truly independent it's like the real Crux of Life For Me Yeah and would you say like what what are the core lessons or Frameworks that you've taken from boxing and applied to business or life in general yeah uh well you've only got the round that you're in Love the One You're

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With You only got the person like in front of you right uh it is just you in there like there's no one come M the main one is like yeah they're all like nice one the main is there no one [ __ ] coming to save you once the Bell Rings it's [ __ ] on until someone calls it or you get what you need or the [ __ ] thing's over you know it's just you it's just you so make no mistake about that like it's just it is just you but that's empowering you know there like a i listening to Joe Rogan always

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says some cool [ __ ] but I'm not sure how true this is that's why I precur it but uh the thing about pigs it's like domestic pigs and Bs so the only difference is that once they're in the wild they sort of realize that they're wild and they develop a hard head get tasks and sort of turn into a bore really I didn't know that and there's a I thought there were two different species well it's like once they so once they're feral for like 6 weeks which is sort of like they're on their own six

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weeks and I was like well that's interesting you know because I've always there's always been situations in my life where I've sometimes had people around me but for the most part I've been very much like independent it's been me and when I feel like I've got the support around me I feel [ __ ] weaker and and less able to be honest you know but that's just me um but as a like when when you focus when you drill down and you're like [ __ ] it is just me it's all up to me what am I going to

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do that's empowering because the only thing that can possibly come on top of that is sound advice for yourself if you sit there and sort of like this is all [ __ ] who can I go to if you come up short then you're [ __ ] mate like that is what it is right whereas sometimes it's like oh it's just me I got this I might not have a good plan but I got something to move a bit closer to like sometimes it's just about stay in the course until an opportunity arises you know I would I would agree with that man

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cuz I think you know there's been times of my life where you know 16 I was essentially kicked out of home and I you know stayed at a few friends houses on their couches and stuff and I was like man I I can't keep doing this so then I started job hunting uh was terrible at it I went to McDonald's and got rejected from McDonald's at 16 and I remember just going [ __ ] like how do I get a job so then I had to go to cink and get the government subsidies and all the rest of it but I hated getting money for that I

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just I never felt good getting money from the government and I was like I got I still got to get a job and I remember I kept going back to this t-shirt shop um and just like begging them for a job and they're like why do you want to work here and I was like I can do graphic design I can you know this I can do this and they're like prove it I got on the computer and I was like look I'm designing stuff and they're like okay and that same day she's like well you got the job here's the keys lock up and

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I was like oh okay but like I think that whole situation wouldn't have taken place if I didn't have the desperation to figure out on my own yeah you know what I mean like sometimes people have um you know may maybe those confidence around you can be your encumbrance for why you can't do something too many emergency levers you know like there's oh she gets too hard I can [ __ ] pull it and oh I'm safe or I can go back to moms or I can go to something else you know and that's probably been the best

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thing that I don't have is I [ __ ] as much as people want to help me they can't help me cuz they're [ __ ] you know so so for you man like when when people say like no one's coming to save you um you know how can people really Embrace that and what do you mean by you know you're alone you you're born alone you die alone um some people might hear these things and go oh that sounds negative like how how do you really take power in that yeah well first thing is that no one's ever going to firstly like

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care about your [ __ ] or your life as much as you do so not only are you like the most capable but you're the you're in the most benefited position to take that action right and so anyone else that you sort of allowing to that is going to come from a discounted position so I know it sounds like a negative like born alone die alone it's like no you're the best person for the job you know whatever it is that you want out of life take full responsibility of it sitting on your shoulders because 100% you got

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all the tools in shed to bring it to fruition if you didn't if you didn't have it your existence would be traumatizing like you've got you you wouldn't be given the vision if you weren't blessed with like the ability or tools or opportunities somewhere in your realm to bring them to FR and it is like up up to you to do it right and also you're the you're the bearer of all of that so whether it's positive negative like the outcome that you want don't want whatever it is you're the one

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that's got to sit with it like for me it was like no one's coming to save me and all that sort of stuff was just like Well the box that I've been put in I [ __ ] don't like it you know it's like what Aboriginal kid poor blah you're doing so well should be able to no [ __ ] that I want to be super successful and super rich and wealthy that's what I want to be I want all my family to be living really well off there's been no one that's ever been like yeah that's a

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path for you this is how you do that you know it's all been this is what I want what do I need to do to get there this is what I want what do I need to do to get there if at any point I waited for anyone's sort of um permission to do that or uh opportun them to give me an opportunity to do that it it would never happen right and so taking that I guess taking that approach of like whatever you want whatever you see whatever it is that you want to come away from or whatever you've got all of the ability

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to focus on doing it yourself so maybe instead of like looking for something to help you just keep looking for the answers inside don't give yourself like an opportunity to have that answered or helped by someone else just keep looking at what can I do about it what can I do about what can I control like what are the things that I control uh and how can I control them that's literally it you know you know so I think that would be the proper translation of like you know born alone die alone it's like no what are the

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things that you can fully control and are you controlling them to the full best of your ability most of the time there's so many stones left unturned people are looking for the well it's much easier if someone else they they got much more tools they can help me they're better you know they're further along like all these sort of things I always get this cuz I you know caught up with Mark and a bunch of other people they're like oh they could help you but that's not how that works you know it's

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not like people come to you with opportunity so that you can do like do them and so you can finally reach fruition of your goal like the opposite is true it's like the only way you get your goal is if you somehow realize to bring it to fruition in opposition of all the things that get in your way yeah and you're referring to Mark Boris yeah and and so so for those that don't know you know he's probably one one of Australia's most wealthiest um uh well-renowned businessman and you raise

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a good point there when it's like well you know this rich person just get them to help you and when you get into the up echelons of business you start to realize that's not really the rule of the land right so when you start rubbing shoulders with these characters um that make a lot of money they're busy they got a lot of stuff to do and they can kind of sniff out [ __ ] pretty quickly and and what I've found is through some of the conversations I've had with the most I guess networked

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individuals I've spoken to is they're like you got to bring value right and sometimes people like to help and they like to give and they like to feed into communities but then also it's like well what value do you bring to the equation maybe they value the feeling of generosity or giving but not everyone in business is like that so then how do you get get into those circles and how do you become valuable but you raise a good point around mindset and I think often times um just tilting how you see things

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can really change how much momentum you're gaining in whatever it is you're doing right so there's a really great quote I heard recently from Grant Cardone he said wherever you go there you are meaning like you're always the center of your problem yeah no matter what's happening you're there you're present and it's like well what are you going to do about it and if you're waiting for someone to save you or you're waiting for your friends family or loved ones to validate yeah you

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should do that thing you want to do then you're kind of [ __ ] because then then you're constantly waiting for someone else to hit the the approval box and what you're saying is like [ __ ] that like approve your own ideas Concepts Pursuits and get after it absolutely but when you talked about you were you know always kind of like I want that how do I do it at what point did you start to identify I want to make money I want to be successful in business at what point did you really start to make those

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decisions about six six years old I was a [ __ ] baby yeah I was like uh yeah I used to I used to charge people in my house to get them drinks what yeah I saved like three grand doing that uh yeah literally when you six yeah dude I was playing Pokemon cards when I was six what are you talking yeah I've been I've been on the money literally I remember you can even ask anyone F they used to ask me when I was and I used to think it was so inspiring you know because but I was like no about [ __ ] money they

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were like um what do you want to be when you grow up you know what do you want to be they always ask kids and I used to always say I want to be a lawyer really the reason I said that was because when I was about four or something like that my pop said barrs make 600 bucks per six minutes and I was like sign me up for that I'm going to be a [ __ ] lawyer right and so and they be like what do you want to be lawyer and make heaps of money and that was it and that was next question yeah yeah move on you know uh but I was I

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don't know I was super aware and smart like when I was a kid but I just I don't know I just could always map it out that you know money is required to live life on your own terms right now like for example like they everyone's G to work I'm like everyone's G to work to do what get money so we can do what like eat food can we just get money like out you know it's like and so like money was always like seemed to be the ticket to to be living a good life and then we always seem to be in some way

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shape or form stressing about quality of life you know and I was like oh simple equation more money we live a better quality of life you know um so I guess that was bit it was real like oh I wanted to be this wanted to do that like that was all pie in the sky like because I was a kid you know it's like those sort of Dreams still think about them in the same way that other kids would think about you know wantan to be a fireman or whatever it is they think about I'm just like I want to be a rich guy um but it

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started getting like quite serious and started actually making steps at it when I was about 13 okay so when I was about 13 that's where I feel like I sort of had that transition of like I'm not a kid anymore I'm a kid for sure but I'm the youngest in my family I'm the old the only one at of home my family's like my mom and and dad are poor I always wanted to give back to them cuz they like a they adopted me when I was a baby so I always wanted to give back to them so I wanted to be successful in this

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really cool way when I was a kid then as I'm about 13 now it's like all right now I'm serious and also if you're going to be successful like people are living they're sort of like uh what's the word I'm looking for sort of hoping for that too you know we sort of need that too there's really no there's no one going to save them you know um and I always wanted to always wanted to give back to them cuz I never I was always aware of my situation was that you know I was

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adopted as a heroin baby my parents were heroin addicts if not for living this quality of life or living with this family I'll be living with probably a mom that was a heroin addict and just on that moment just for people understand like can you describe what you mean by heroin baby heroin baby so heroin baby is like a baby that's born with heroin in their system so it's like your your parents are doing heroin while they're in the obviously your mom is doing heroin while you're in the womb then

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when you're born Jesus Christ man cuz heroin is such a heavy drug you can't uh just take them straight off it you got to wean them off it so the baby's born you got to give them [ __ ] more heroin uh until they wean off it into a comfortable sort of State wow so so yeah I was little heroin baby I was deaf till I was like two couldn't walk uh I was like didn't form properly had like a bunch of plastic surgery and stuff so like right against that's why that's why I'm always like yeah [ __ ] you know it's

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it is always just you like if that was I guess that was the life carved out and chosen for me it's like everyone's like you doing it was always like uh I guess early on cuz I understood it PR pretty early on they be like I must be so hard being adopted and actually remember having this uh challenge early on of like yeah believing it you know I'm a kid I'm like yeah [ __ ] must be and then thought about some point I just really realized I'm like how the [ __ ] do they know how the [ __ ] would you know firstly

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you're not adopted number one and number two how the [ __ ] would I know what you're feeling isn't [ __ ] than what I'm feeling right so like why the [ __ ] would I got to believe they're trying to impart their belief on you bad thing like is it and as I grew up more and more I realized I'm like a people are actually always looking for someone that's doing worse than them so they can [ __ ] Elevate and like whatever that's power to themselves but for me it's been

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a super power right it's like there's no one coming to save you actually you've been against it the whole [ __ ] time any form of success is always a good one when you're a [ __ ] every baby you know you're like good Jobing you're here mate you know but uh you've got like you don't have to believe them narratives that people like in par it doesn't have like is it I read a quote the other day it's like either you can endure it or you can't or something along those lines

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right like so either it's Can I Endure this yes so it's not a [ __ ] issue you know what I mean like I'm adopted and it's always served me in some way shap a form there challenges and you're sort of like oh you know would be nice to I guess but it' be nice to have like a Rolls-Royce when you had never had one either you know so it's like what's the what's the difference like I've always had my family I've always had my parents and people that love me and cared about

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me the only difference is that I've got this other narrative about how I was born you know and that sort of led me and I've had I guess a different set of circumstances but it's never served me to believe that victim statement or that victim story about like it must be so hard to do this BL blah blah blah it's even if just sheer of like what serves me better believing that it's a superpower and it gives me all this Independence and it gives me all this strength is just much more beneficial

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for me so even if nothing else I just just believe that but I actually believe it like I actually believe that I'm like it's it is actually Super A lot of people are like held back by their family roots and beliefs and what they inherit and you know I'm this way cuz of my mom and [ __ ] dad and blah blah blah you know I just don't believe any of that [ __ ] I think you've got enough you can form everything out anything out that you want yourself and and you have a quote here that you love that kind of

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I guess talks to what you just shared with us and and that's the same boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg it's not the circumstances you're in instead it's about What You're Made Of that's right that is my favorite coat it Ted on my forehead that's uh yeah absolutely it's exactly that it's it's uh it's a tough quote same boiling water literally the same circumstances that make something softer make something else harder you know so you've

00:26:37 - 00:27:27

got to make your decision about like what are you like you potato and egg and you see that as a choice am I potato or am I the egg absolutely yeah it's down to a choice yeah so what do you believe like what do you believe yourself to be both are true like both are going to be true yeah you believe yourself to be potato mate you're it congratulations you yeah if you believe you're an egg you're an egg [ __ ] enough Good Egg congratulations a good hot egg um and and and that's insane man like your

00:27:01 - 00:27:58

story is is crazy like to have you know having come into the world with with parents who are actively doing heroin while you're in the womb is is a lot to think about it's a lot to Fathom um being being a parent myself that that that's a lot and then having to I I guess as a as a baby you're not really yet coherent you're you're having to deal with this problem from your parents essentially um and you said you were deaf for two years and then it was difficult to learn how to walk yeah so

00:27:30 - 00:28:21

because of the death frows off your equil because when you can't hear you throws off your equilibrium so you can't stand up for quite some time um but my mom she started reading to me like out loud for a little while so once I could walk I could read almost immediately wow I read Ling or something before I was two and then um then I yeah super smart switched on um they got like when she started sending me to school like I wasn't engaged all sort of born and [ __ ] and I was deaf so wouldn't talk about

00:27:55 - 00:28:48

this little spad you know and then they would be like yeah they thought you were a potato but you're like I'm a hard Bo I'm egg brother trust me yeah they they um and they like sent me home like he's learning disabled like mate he's not learning disabled this kid read the Bible uh she left a Bible in my dresser once and I read the whole thing and come out asking questions what about this god dude and so um yeah what's the deal yeah's do makes sense and so they uh so that that

00:28:22 - 00:29:19

was like a interesting Dynamic then I was like this boy Genius for so long by the time I was six I was like the family admin to be like Brad you spell superal fragile do I could probably still spell it but yeah that would um so that that that's what I mean so that had that little validation I wasn't aware of it at the time of like oh this victimhood [ __ ] everything's terrible as oppos if I'm believing every everyone then oh no actually superpower well heroin babies are really smart apparently and like all

00:28:51 - 00:29:44

these things and it's like oh they're all external we we we often hear um this concept around people being a victim yeah like what's your definition of what a victim really is uh someone who has a victim mindset or they're living in victimhood and um how do you catch yourself and and how do you pull yourself out of it yeah believe in the [ __ ] excuses that are getting in your way that's probably how I Define like what a victim is it's like accepting the reasons as the way can't

00:29:16 - 00:30:13

can't can't succeed there's always reasons there's always like a million reasons and valid reasons and valid uh options that don't give you what you want that you fall short on like and they're valid 100% we can all appreciate that but you got to live with that we pack up and I'm like great you know PR of this guy hope he does well and I go back to my [ __ ] life I don't care about it and you sit there in the in in the fruition of not getting what you want right and so there's no power in it

00:29:45 - 00:30:33

and so I guess that I guess that's how I Define it is like believing the [ __ ] stories and excuses and valid maybe reasons as to why you can't get what you want uh and how can you get out of that it's like what you you just got to make make a decision it's like is it more important that I'm comfortable and I can let go of that and I don't know break whatever promises I've sort of made to myself or do I pick the difficulty that lies in the doing of the task like just

00:30:09 - 00:30:57

doing the things that maybe seem impossible but [ __ ] just do them anyway like at least do them all and fail then you know I mean do everything take away all the excuses and then fail go tried everything you know if you can truly say that you've tried everything then great but I think a lot of people sort of pull up too soon yeah but yeah but yeah but you [ __ ] missed no one else you know what I mean so it's like that's a good point cuz a lot of people pump the brakes before they even try and

00:30:33 - 00:31:19

maybe they've had something in the past that's gone really really badly or really poorly and they're pumping the brakes like I think the common one I see is like when people are like yeah but I can't because of X it's like last time this happened and then this person did this to me and it's like you're still attached to the P yeah right who who's to say you can't change the narrative change the [ __ ] if you're buying the [ __ ] and that's the reason why you

00:30:56 - 00:31:34

can't succeed change the [ __ ] EX exactly yeah literally just change it redefine it because yeah it's that's the and if if there's not if there's not that there's something else there's another obstacle that takes the form of like you know overcome this and get what you want either you're going to make a decision that like I'm going to overcome it I'm going to do whatever I need to to overcome it or you're going to accept that you're not going to get what you

00:31:16 - 00:32:05

want like you're going to have to accept something and my favorite one here is like when someone you know when you're challenging someone on something and they're like yeah but this and then you're like well the remedy to that is this thing yeah but this yeah but also this and then they hop to the next one and then they keep hopping and and um how do people you know game of ferti yeah how how do you how do you start to catch yourself in these because I think sometimes people aren't consciously like

00:31:40 - 00:32:33

yeah I'm a victim they're like I'm not a victim like you know I'm doing my best Val you know I got valid reasons man yeah well I guess a good way to catch yourself um so I guess little practice that I sort of do is I sort of think it's like well is this going to kill me like is it that bad like and you sort of nut it all the way back down like how does this actually impact me like what is the actual impact it's like meditating on it right and so of like what is the actual impact that it's

00:32:06 - 00:33:02

making or what is the actual hurdle or what is the actual thing it's sort of like isolating it it's like what is it and then where's the CH like is it actually am I willing to let this little problem this little hurdle be the thing that says okay you're not going to have this which is on the line of it you know as an example might be um I need to I've got all this work I need to do because I'm trying to pull together a big opportunity like something that's working on right now we got a really big

00:32:35 - 00:33:18

opportunity that we're sort of working on I literally [ __ ] don't know where we're finding the time but there's just no time to do it but I can either be like yeah that opportunity it came and went was a really big one would have been you know massive for our whole business but you know just couldn't find the time and everyone's like yeah you must be so busy like you got a business and like yeah and everyone will be you know pity party and we'd [ __ ] hug and everyone would be depressed together

00:32:56 - 00:33:43

that doesn't serve anything so I'm just like all right well what the [ __ ] do I need to do like here's the things and they sort of seem unreasonable but it's like well if either I do them or I miss the opportunity so I need to figure out how to do them it's like well okay so I can put them in here I can put them extra time here I can put some extra time there might work might not be enough time but whatever we try we have a crack you know so like I'm just not accepting the other route of like yeah but this

00:33:19 - 00:34:10

year that's that's a sort of good thing so I guess you got to always weigh it against your goal like what's your big goal and then you know Obstacle of the day new is going to be another on tomorrow but it's like [ __ ] Obstacle of the day what's what's in my way what is the actual thing like isolating what is the actual pain Point actual problem actual issue because it's never as once you articulate it's never like what your chin is Whispering to yourself it's

00:33:44 - 00:34:36

always a small one or two little issues uh and are you willing to let that go or let that be the determining factor that doesn't let you get the goal cuz if you're not then [ __ ] do it and if you are then agree to agree to disagree or agree to fail yeah and I think often times people focus on this the battles that they're in yeah and then sometimes we need to like seriously zoom out and and look at like the total war and I think when when I look at business you know War analogies are always a fun one

00:34:11 - 00:35:07

because I I like to read a lot of books on like you know the history of war and Generals and stuff like that but I think when you start to go okay well in business or life whatever the war is you're trying to win like what is that outcome and then track it back from there exactly and then I think often times when we talk to people in business and I sit with people all the time doing strategic workshops it's kind of terrifying how few business people have actual actualized goals yes that are

00:34:38 - 00:35:24

like this is my goal and then they can meticulously break it down and people have this avoidance of well I don't want to be arrogant or I don't want to be um it's almost like a fear of it not happening so then they create this smoke screen of like I don't want to look at it it's not the priority right now I'm just going to focus on the battle I'm in and it's like no dude like what's what's the outcome you're actually looking for and it's actually a weird cathartic

00:35:02 - 00:35:54

experience for people to go through this cuz they're like I've never been asked these questions do do you have a series of questions that you ask yourself when you're looking at well how do I select that crazy audacious goal and how do I clarify it if got everything I want what would it be like what is it so what's the best absolute best like outcome of whatever it might be it might be sort of situational so like as an example in business it's like what's the best absolute best version of my business

00:35:27 - 00:36:19

what does that look like in the world or in Australia and then what would need to happen for those things to to occur you know um some very simple it's maybe overwhelmingly simple the questions I asked myself to be honest but it's literally like what do I want like in a best case scenario what is it that I want what are the steps that we need to do to overcome them and then fig I don't know I just don't have that mechanism of like oh do we want to do them like they just got to be done

00:35:53 - 00:36:34

once you have that goal yeah once you either agree that you're going to get the goal or like these are the things that need to be done can't resign that's impossible can't resign to that and that's like off the table either it's like a possibility or it's not um and there's no Silver Bullet right yeah there's no silver [ __ ] bullet no literally like every and even every day like always people always like interested in like the story resilience how do you overcome and how do you do it

00:36:14 - 00:37:05

it's like well every day same as everyone it's like you make a conscious decision to like do the winning not the [ __ ] losing right and it's just like what do we got to do to get closer to our goal to our aspiration to delivering or whatever it is that we wanted to every day and then that conscious effort is still in that little like it it the opportunity presents itself there's the victimhood route there's the [ __ ] it go after it route there's the don't do anything which is also a decision not to

00:36:39 - 00:37:28

do it route and you got to make that decision like pick pick your door every time you know you got to pick your door every single time and I've just like trained it to know that every time the thing that I want is always on the other side of the get after it door even if it's not Comfort like it's always on the other side of the [ __ ] it we'll figure it out or [ __ ] would just keep moving down that direction or bucket is better than other options you know what I mean like you just keep moving down the

00:37:04 - 00:38:00

positive path it's never I guess sometimes I would I would agree with that man like there's a there's a book up on the wall there called the 10x rule yeah and um the title of chapter six is don't be a little [ __ ] which is my favorite chapter of any book I've ever read ever and the audio book is is hilarious and that chapter is about victimhood yeah and the two doors you're talking about kicking in is like at any point in business you got two doors one which is I'm going to be a little [ __ ] today and

00:37:32 - 00:38:24

the other one is [ __ ] it let's get after it yes exactly and which one which one you opens up to you that's why I love business to be honest cuz it's like uh it's like raw it's black and white yeah it's [ __ ] raw and it slaps you around it's like boxing but like bit bit worse uh but yeah so honestly it's it's uh the Bell doesn't you know finish the match going at least in boxing the rounds [ __ ] end and you get to sit down like it doesn't happen in business cuz the weekend comes around

00:37:58 - 00:38:58

you're like you're still running a business and you talk about your admiration for Mike Tyson and and um the likes of David gogin and you know how how have these individuals like inspired you cuz both of these guys are Relentless at kicking in the [ __ ] go after a door non-stop very much anti victim mindset um are you resonating with these two characters because you align with them with your same belief system or or do they help stoke your fire in some kind of way no I resonate a lot with like that belief system of like

00:38:27 - 00:39:10

[ __ ] it like figure it out bro like you know mean like let's just like just just figure it straight out like it is so binary but it's uncomfortable the amount of work that's generally required like it is binary it's like this is for you to get here this is what's required that's it that is literally the [ __ ] equation so like you want to do that or not you know it's like and it's like if you're like okay I don't want to do the work I was like how bad do you

00:38:49 - 00:39:36

want that thing then as much as this list or less you know and that's what I love about like what I like about Dave gong thing is like it's like what he says like once you WR that Point like you feel like you're quitting you're only at 40% which is sort of like a I guess proof to say that even you know you got to believe in yourself no one else is going to believe in you to the degree that you do but even that full 100% that you believe in yourself still only about [ __ ] 40% you still got

00:39:13 - 00:39:59

much more in the tank you know which sort of serves as more proof that you're even better than you think you know you got even more tools than you think if you can even see like a slitter of the chance of how you could figure it out you could probably do it three times you know so don't be scared and back yourself a bit you know that's what I like about those two characters that they've got no they had no as I guess I see a little bit that in myself is like I had no external validation as to why I

00:39:35 - 00:40:22

would be the person that I'm ended up being but I knew it and they [ __ ] knew it and you just got to figure out a way to to prove that or not like prove that but you you're sort of getting on your own path and doing it you know it's like David gogins and and Mike Tyson they were like you know had terrible upbringings and then went on to be super successful people and all that sort of stuff in their own right but that was cuz they got in their individual path of like breaking down their own like little

00:39:58 - 00:40:43

beliefs I guess with with Mike it was was a bit different he had a bunch of different people sort of helping him and things like that and sort of helping him realize his potential um but he wanted to be something other than what life was telling him and then he just gritted that out like he just done the [ __ ] work and the reason he become like a champion it's not because of Any some god-given Talent it's because he trained for 10 years plus doing the same thing and then went pro and obviously killed

00:40:21 - 00:41:08

people you know uh and then like with David slightly different it was like an internal Battle of overcoming and overcoming and constantly Pro proven to himself that he could do more and more as possible and stretching out like what's possible for himself so that he could align that on path that would give him what he wants and I guess that's that's it too is like you got all the tools in the shed to be whatever the [ __ ] you want you just got to align it to a path that's worth it for you and

00:40:44 - 00:41:40

yeah you got all got all the juice and and for your personal story you know you talk about Mike Tyson having a lot of external support and then David having to go quite internal and I think both of these individuals have you know like you said come up with a troubled past and a troubled upbringing um now with your story where do you feel like you draw your strength from like were you deprived in your opinion of having uh external validation or you know were you deprived of anything in your childhood

00:41:12 - 00:42:07

that you feel uh was the primary reason that you're now in the Relentless pursuit in business and and not wearing any of the victim mindset don't think so I think uh mom and dad always done like the best they could you know um with what they had always would give me like everything they possibly could when we had money everything was fine uh when we're poor they' still try and all that sort of stuff um but they just don't know what they don't know like they just blue color workers just hanging out like

00:41:40 - 00:42:40

just working and getting after it sort of thing and um you know I I think what I got from my parents is like you know they would never let me feel any different about being adopted which is cool which is which is really cool but that's uh uh what's the word I'm looking for it's like a contradict itself in a way by being treated not different because you're adopted you are being treated different because you're adopted like like you're so special I'm like yeah um why why yeah no but it's uh I

00:42:09 - 00:42:56

was not deprived of anything um did it ever play on your mind did it ever get in the way oh all the time yeah all the time it would always play any mind like until I found like a home with it when in my teens and stuff but up until then it was like rattling all the time it'd always be I remember beat the [ __ ] out of this kid once when I was in year five they used to say like your mom jokes all the time yeah your mom your mom your mom you know your mom this your mom that and he said Your mom joke to me and I like I

00:42:33 - 00:43:22

remember beating the [ __ ] out of him like crying going like yeah adopted anyway so that was um no so I was not I wasn't I wasn't really deprived of anything it wasn't like a tough upbring in that sort of way we just never had the resour that we need to live a decent [ __ ] life once I was about 10 and that sort of was a problem that kept mounting on my like they were getting defeated as I was getting older and sort of I felt his inclination to become the leader of the family and help health

00:42:57 - 00:43:47

issues and and you guys Hospital a lot yeah they've got like a lot of health issues now like today and this is I've been able to do it like I've bought him a house they live out of House Commission they live like you know 20 M from the water and stuff they live nice quality life now um and that's because of all the the property like I've been able to give give back to them you know and that's it's like literally what I always what I always wanted but they that's incredible man to be able to buy

00:43:22 - 00:44:16

your parents a house yeah I'm happy with it and and having had grown up in in Housing Commission essentially yeah I remember getting out of jail and sort of coming home and living in going back to the houso house and being like we're not [ __ ] doing this anymore and then um I moved out for like six months and then a year later I bought him a house and I was like let's go use her out yeah and moved them to what was that feeling like uh it was good well interesting one actually I was I can't remember where I

00:43:48 - 00:44:35

was talking about this so the that the feeling was great and the feeling is like better now but at the time you know and this is where at the time actually me and my were fighting like and arguing like the relationship was actually at its worst and it was weird like it was a weird sort of moment so which is always a good this is actually a good thing to talk about so it was sort of Bittersweet at the time of buying it so I didn't get the this payoff like that you PO for like bought the house [ __ ] parents

00:44:13 - 00:44:57

moved into it yeah you have this picture in your mind of this beautiful this is all going to happen family moment yeah this is a great [ __ ] amazing learning experience for me because what happened was uh we were having like all these personal issues about some other [ __ ] like basically and then it had dissolved at a terrible time when I'm trying to buy this house full fruition of like my whole life goal and all that sort of stuff were they aware of it when when you were doing this yeah it was like it

00:44:35 - 00:45:26

there just this little dynamic between me and my mom but it's like you know family's fight you know and it just was a terrible timing of the fight basically and I'm like ah feeling ripped off because of this big thing that I was working for and blah blah blah but maybe sort of reflect inwards and be like and sort of it's just a further iteration of like the victimhood thing because what was I hoping for is what what I asked the the question asked to myself like what was I hop for of course probably a

00:45:00 - 00:45:48

better reaction but what what reaction then if I'm asking for a reaction what reaction am I asking for um and I couldn't really articulate it it's like oh but better you know there's always there's always going to be that you always want something to be better or not worse or whatever else but at the end of the day that's their experience I bought the property because of what I wanted to experience for the people that adopted me it's all it's all a selfish experience as much as people don't want

00:45:24 - 00:46:09

to appreciate it like when you do [ __ ] for others it's a [ __ ] selfish experience you're doing it for the reasons that you're getting out of it as much as that might be tied to someone else it's what you're getting out of it so you have to sort of look in and be like well what what good does this do for me like what is it it's like well I've like done all the good things like what did I miss out on it's like a reaction it's like well who really misses out is it me or is it them it's

00:45:47 - 00:46:31

[ __ ] them you know I'm like sucks you know but we've done the good thing and over time like the a couple of days later it was completely fine it was a figment I'm pretty sure it was just there as a lesson to be like you know whatever it is make sure that it's all internally motivated not externally for someone to have some sort of reaction so you can get some sort of external validation or someone feels some sort of [ __ ] certain way what are you hoping to get out of it and make sure you can't

00:46:09 - 00:46:55

make sure you get what you came for and uh and you'll be fine and what was their reaction when when you were doing this they love it they're [ __ ] like they tell me every day now they're like oh they just they're still so wrapped about it it's just that we were arguing at the time yeah yeah you're doing this beautiful thing just a bit of drama and and then and and over time what was the main lesson that you've taken from that do you think from the little experience or for the buying of the house the

00:46:32 - 00:47:20

experience and the buying the house and and how they reacted yeah well just pretty much that right it's like you um do it you got to do things from a place of like what do you what is your motivation like what are you trying to do what's you what are you hoping to get out of it like what's your what's your purpose of doing this right because a lot of the time and I think there was a there's an element of that me buying the house that was a little bit of that probably early on a bit of that

00:46:56 - 00:47:50

validation of like I'm good enough to blah blah blah like whatever you know so just make sure whatever it is that you're aiming for is not based in validation it's actually based in whatever it is that you want out of life and what you want not what you're hoping or some like someone's going to think of you or anything like that so sort of just like make sure you keep your eye on the ball which is you you know that's powerful man I bought my parents at house absolutely that's badass that's one of the coolest

00:47:24 - 00:48:08

things I've had I was adopted though you know what I mean and so it's like I've got parents but and this like the reality is someone else adopted me I would have been trying probably trying to buy them a [ __ ] house too you know what I mean like it's the reality of situation I wanted to do it because I wanted to be adopted kid that Bo's adopted parents [ __ ] house that's it not because like John le independent of me being adopted are going to get a house somewhere down the line like it's

00:47:46 - 00:48:48

it's a tide to to my experience you know and so you got to yeah you got to take s stage it's a very beautiful thing and you did it within a year so explain that to me so you were in jail for I understand for a year and then a year outside of jail you end up buying your parents a house yeah take me so so you were crushing in sales then you um ended up in jail for a year and then you get out like you just go straight back into it like H how did you get into such um two days two days outside of jail I was back to work back

00:48:16 - 00:49:05

at the same job same job and take me through that year like what what were you doing that year what were you spending your time on like were you obsessing and just working relentlessly what were you doing I was a [ __ ] madman I I was like uh I got I should have brang the books I got them in my office so like there's two books so one was like all the go I used to write the same goals every day and just visualize them like same same [ __ ] every day just think about them what kind of stuff would you write down uh buy Mom house um

00:48:41 - 00:49:35

have like 100 Grand in the bank [ __ ] like all these little physical goals you know that was like manifesting I'm you're running them every day yeah every day yep like in the morning at night didn't nothing else nothing else to do so I was going to put the context over it so they lock they let you out at 9:30 and lock you back in at 3:30 I see so you [ __ ] what are we going to do read 200 Pages a day and like all right what now now 6:00 news like you got got a whole process you got a whole day

00:49:08 - 00:50:00

routine like within your bathroom like put it that way you know so what was your daily routine for this year I would wake up okay so I wake up uh so in maxo then what minimum was different because you get out at six and lock back in at six in maxo it's 9 or 3: so you got much more time in your C so I'd wake up at like six I'd uh write some goals like a write my little things on in my book do a little bit of visualizing sit there and think for a bit and get that I stood that today sort of get like uh my sort

00:49:34 - 00:50:25

of Soul and Spirit sort of aligned and intent sort of aligned and pointy then once I get there then we start reading or something like I've got to kill time now cuz I got to wait to get out so start reading do a little bit of that do some push-ups like just whatever sort of waiting for them to open the door and once they open the door then I'll go and train straight away so go to the chin up bar do some chins do some dips um so you just would do like chins to fail like 20 or so then dips 20 or so and then do a

00:49:59 - 00:51:04

lap and come back and then do it again and you just would do that for you know 10 15 20 20 laps or something um and then I play some chess by that time be lunch have a [ __ ] carrot sandwich or some [ __ ] and then uh that was shocking a carrot sandwich carrot sandwich they want to budget yeah dogs and then um [ __ ] yeah so anyway well I this is the first sh I went to so I thought ah you know this is what we eat went to other jails these guyss are getting chicken wings like I'm like BR what the

00:50:31 - 00:51:23

[ __ ] is this slave Camp anyway so that was that was [ __ ] um but yeah and then we I'd do like some more training do some more chess whatever and then we get locked back in once I get locked back in then I'd read uh 100 Pages or more or something write my goals again Watch that' be like a a movie on go I watch a movie on go and I'll [ __ ] go to sleep yeah rinse and repeat that's it or jump I jump on the phone or something like that when when you I guess go through that for a year uh whether

00:50:58 - 00:51:53

you're eating carrot sandwiches or chicken wings um hopefully in most cases um you got more chicken wings than carrot sandwiches um it's you know it sounds quite monotonous it sounds like Groundhog Day like do you think that strengthened you in some kind of way was it a battle to try to stay positive some days are harder than others for sure but you just got to remember that like well it's it's like boxing you know it's like all those quotes that you hear about then you get to sort of live them right um and it's

00:51:25 - 00:52:16

like this two shall pass it's going to pass not going to be here forever like I'm we going to be out one day I remember telling telling the guard this one day because he wouldn't give me a dinner plate and I said I'm not going to be any forever [ __ ] yeah game with the plate no but there's uh but yeah 100% like you're not going to be in it forever this is just a blip in your existence uh it's even still I'm like I knew it was going to be a great story turn into a positive right I knew

00:51:52 - 00:52:36

it was going to be a good Yar like 100% like it's fine you know it's all it's all good obviously it's not like at the time my dad I thought he was going to die while I was in jail he'd been given 6 months to live I got 12 months sentence it's not mathing you know so I'm just like [ __ ] um so every day there's a bit of that anxiety so get out after I train I'll be on the phone he's gone blah blah there be that anxiety of like [ __ ] did he pass away every day so

00:52:14 - 00:53:18

that made things much more intense um but yeah it just was that you know it's like you can what can you control well I try to break out it's not going to go well okay can't control that I'm in jail till this predetermined date so can control that I'm locked in into something that's pretty much my bathroom right so can't control that I'm [ __ ] getting in here every day what can I do about it what are the things that I can f impart some benefit on like what what can I make what can I grow and

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strengthen and Empower I can train my body I can train my mind I can train my patience so that's what I did I just would read like a [ __ ] machine like I read like 20 22 books or something I trained like literally I would uh one of the goal and so one of the goals that I had in there was that I was going to be a world champion I was going to be a world champion boxer now whether either I was either going to be a world champion or it was because like it was just the vehicle that was going to get

00:53:09 - 00:54:04

me through this doesn't matter both of them served me when I got out I was actually fit as [ __ ] I could have gone on and for it but I had this had more business opportunities and I didn't want to take the risk for my family on boxing because boxing doesn't [ __ ] pay [ __ ] so like take me through those first two days what was it like you know being in this box essentially in your bathroom in this rhythm in this process to go okay now I'm out back in the world a lot of people struggle with that transition

00:53:37 - 00:54:25

from those two worlds I want to tell you about the first day but I'll tell you about the second day no but yeah it was good first thing to get out is like eat a good steak and [ __ ] but then after that like oh that's right no so because I was like just constantly going over like the goals and trying to bring about like what I could so what can I control so I could train my mind my goals and I could manif and bring things closer to me and as I said so what can what can I do there so every

00:54:01 - 00:55:02

day doing that then when I got out it was just like all right time to [ __ ] do all the things I've been writing about Let's uh let's go and back to work uh it just all literally I I'm like I'm moved mountains in there with my mind because when I got out there was this is I've like created all these [ __ ] opportunities for myself when I got out I had clients actually to which I would make over 100 grand within the next few weeks of doing deals so bring the 100 Grand straight to

00:54:30 - 00:55:24

me I had um this opportunity so the lensey of my old business she was no the liy of the old business and the old business owner he started ripping off clients there was like a mutiny going on exactly as I got out and we had then we we basically went from there and started another business that was where I cut my teeth in business and sort of understood it was not a good business deal for me but it was a good business experience to understand how to run one and all that sort of stuff and that's where I got so

00:54:58 - 00:55:50

you went into business in that first year pretty much straight away I went like first few days back jumped on the phones the next two weeks was like a re Shuffle Rebrand and then I started back again working up so the phones then back on sales and back in property Acquisitions and then running a teams and then off we go yeah and how long were you doing that for and and until what you're doing now it like three years doing that it was like quite two years three years it was like quite intense doing that it was like I thought

00:55:24 - 00:56:18

it was my business you know and so I was like treating it like my my business um and then at the end of that so that dissolved went extremely pear-shaped that is what it is um and then I got into well how how I came into this was that at the end of that relationship I went to a markb seminar at the seminar came up with indigenous wealth idea and I was like Aboriginal Finance like there's a massive need for it I could sort of see the Gap um like had this like Epiphany while sitting there just wrote all this

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[ __ ] I'm like yep um left there the business relationship dissolved started working on this idea because I'm like [ __ ] what am I gonna do I don't want to go work for someone else um because that was pretty much the rhetoric is like when I got out started this business with her I thought it was like this business that I was involved in she's like no it's not your business I'm like well I sort of that's what I wanted to do when I get out don't want to [ __ ] go work somewhere you know so

00:56:14 - 00:57:03

anyway all good I'll start my own thing what can I do sort of thinking about my Niche went to this seminar had that idea this sort of dissolves I went and worked at a company called link up New South Wales which connects stolen generation with their family so the less important part of it but it's just uh I guess while I was building indigenous wealth I wanted to sort of give back because my dad just met his family for the first time and anyway so I had this time and sort of done that I started working on

00:56:39 - 00:57:36

indigenous wealth that started working really well then a few years down one year down the line two years down the line I've uh I've sheded all my friends CU now I'm like you know in business people [ __ ] I'm speaking a different language at this point to them you know it's like cling on the most good on you just having a business I'm like mate [ __ ] tax like yeah tax is a [ __ ] man real issues you know like don't want to hear about it um and so then uh seen Cub seen a ride up on Cub through the AFR

00:57:08 - 00:58:00

and then because I've seen Market invested in or whatever and went to Cub the rest of History became member of Cub and [ __ ] rolled on had a couple events and whatever else so I started off so when I started indigenous wealth it was off the back of a not so good business business relationship sort of idea once I started working on it I was like it's a bit of a concept like there was not there's no original property investors or not many abigal property investors in Australia all the data said

00:57:33 - 00:58:18

like less than 100 which was weird um so I was like there's a massive need for it but there's also no proof of it so I need to figure out how to do this I need to figure out how to do this so I went in and started doing I just got as many clients as I couldn't done them for free I don't know if you ever tried to sell anything for free it's brutal [ __ ] hard it sucks man cuz it's it's like people are skeptical like what's the catch what do you what you trying to do

00:57:57 - 00:58:50

with this the catch is I'm undervaluing myself so I'm figure out a business man that's a catch you know that's that was that was tough why are we doing it for free because I need to see if it worked okay so so you're and I understand this like your your company's called indigenous wealth yes and and the mission is to make 100 plus Aboriginal millionaires by 2025 correct yeah and you know when when you're going through this and and you're trying to pitch it like are you trying to pitch to

00:58:23 - 00:59:12

Aboriginal clients yeah so what I want to do is like take uh abigal individuals and turn them into successful property investors right because there's not much generational wealth in Australia and in Australia your wealth is tied almost directly to your property portfolio you got property probably wealthy and vice versa and so I just think we need to own more property pretty simple as that and so uh a lot of our issues come from the financial disparity or problem or shortfall that we have and so by

00:58:47 - 00:59:37

creating economic independence I believe that we take all that power back and we can solve our own problems similar to how I have solve my [ __ ] issues you know with yeah and for those listening can you just I guess shine a light on on on exactly that disparagement in in our local community here in Australia the Gap yeah the Gap because we have a lot of international listeners and some of them might be just trying to connect some Dots here absolutely yeah so uh I guess our original like First Nations

00:59:12 - 01:00:04

people in Australia due to like a lot of different things within with of our control uh there's a gap in in terms of like wealth and financial opportunity for average people in the rest of the sh so not only Gap in like the services that are available but the literally the like there's aage people are generally much much less wealthy much like a lot of indigenous communities around the world but I feel like there's a bit of a shift happening you know while the like the colonies of the day and all that

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sort of stuff it's very different now people are sort of aware what's happened aware of what the shortcoming CU in our history industr here there's a lot of colonization colonization horrible things were taking place exactly like my dad stolen generation I was like the soft version of stallen they was stealing babies until the 60s you know can you just Define the stalen generation as stol yeah stolen generation is basically uh if you're an Aboriginal kid the government had a policy that they would come and remove

01:00:02 - 01:01:02

you from your family and put you with a white family as a way of getting rid of the Aboriginal race right that obviously didn't work we've survived we're here now uh and Indigenous 12 like literally just serves as like a new age tool to restore Prosperity thriving positivity economic just abundance in general back to AB original people further to degrees that it sort of once was right so we're in a different world now um to the one sort of before it was colonized there's more opportunity now for our people than

01:00:32 - 01:01:32

there sort of ever has been prior to colonization or a post colonization sorry um and so now it's up to us to take that uh take that opportunity and run with it you know like the opportunities that I have very different than my dad and opportunities that he had very different than his dad uh and I've got the best of all of us and so it's it's up to me to take us onto the next next PATH and and what are been the biggest challenges when you were selling um your services for free what did you identify and and

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what were the common occurrences what the exactly that what's the catch why is it because on average at clients make between 150 and 180 Grand are the two numbers that we've it used to be 180 now I think it's like 150 in the first 12 months of owning a property with with us so it makes makes a lot of money and as you go through that and they can see that and they're like and you're not charging me you going to make me 150 Grand don't think so like what a nice guy something wrong

01:01:29 - 01:02:19

with this dude yeah so yeah so that like a lot of that is like too good to be true sort of element was like the biggest one um and that's really it but the other issues are like the ones that we typically face in general but it's with within our people and it's one of belief you know it's like believing that all this monetary success can be yours too like you could be in the way of it like uh a lot of people believe that making money and all this sort of stuff is for rich people like there opposite

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you know rich people are rich because they do these activities they buy properties and they and they invest in things and so that's what we want to bring to our original culture that there's no shame in being successful it's actually something that was imparted on you so you could you would happily accept your position of whatever it is they wanted you to be um whereas now like you know I want my kids driving around G wagons on their peas that's amazing little shits you know but like

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why not like how come you know how come those things are sort of reserved for some people and not for others I think that's [ __ ] if you have like some sort of idea in your mind then and if you can figure out the means to get it P to you you know and so that's what dig health is like to bring those services for abigal people and have them run by AB original people and how does it feel I guess to be in service of the indigenous community and and to actually see these guys out there driving G

01:02:43 - 01:03:39

wagons building business building property portfolios like what what kind of the [ __ ] best yeah so like helping because uh seeing seeing some of our clients that come in give Sharon Turvy a shout out right now so so she for example when I sat with her she was like no uh she had no belief that she could own more than one property she got three properties now you know and she's like always call me about wanting to start a business and do all sorts of things got a whole family investing like in five

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years I'll be one of the wealthiest AB original families [ __ ] maybe in Australia you know and that's like because I was able to help her switch her belief to one that she actually deeply believed but had all these maybe valid reasons and things that sort of popped up that she of tacked on and stopped her from from realizing that full potential and that's where I think that's the bigger work that we do is like helping them crack and change their beliefs into ones that they actually

01:03:35 - 01:04:21

want um and remove any [ __ ] excuses as to why they can't achieve them and what are those steps that someone needs to I guess be walked through in order to start to shift their perspective well if you could have anything you wanted right like what would that actually be sometimes like carrot in the stick you know so it's like what would you really want if you could have anything that you wanted and some people don't really respond to that it's like okay okay well who serves to who do you serve to benefit as a result

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of you being successful like who who relies on you your kids your family blah blah whatever you know and so what I guess if that if you could give to them in the best sort of way what would that sort of look like and it's really just about shaping like a vision of like what would your ideal best case scenario be and then why is it that we can't achieve that really like so with prop property quite simple right it's just about like building a reverse engineering a portfolio to the degree that gives you

01:04:28 - 01:05:21

the quality of life that allow you to live it on your own terms pretty simple like if I can unpack for example like you know who deserve the benefit where do you want to live what sort of all these things you want to do what does that cost and then what would that look like in terms of a property portfolio and then how long's that going to take got a plan right cuz I can imagine when when you start talking about like people and their goals for themselves often times they're they're not massive and

01:04:54 - 01:05:52

then you talk about hey you got kids right you got family you got friends loved ones that are looking to potentially you know to help lead your local community yeah is is there um are there things that you go to to Really help open people's minds because often times when we're working with people in business that it's quite a difficult process to get them to start opening their mind and stretching themselves without feeling weird about it into into their goals yeah honestly this is where

01:05:23 - 01:06:13

like I feel like an obligation to share my story and stuff like that much more so to give them a bit more of like an example of you know what um I guess what's a little bit possible for me it's you know I'm not driving around rolls-royces or anything like that but there's no issues in terms of money in my life or or for anyone in it you know and so that's what that means for me it's like we've been able to come from this impoverished position and a reach this uh this this this part where we can

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eat and do like we can live however we want across I got like 12 nephews and nieces you know they whatever whatever everyone needs at any time everyone's fine you know and there's there's much more levels to that as well but like letting your imagination like you're a kid everyone's a kid sometime at some point it's like what is it that you what is it that you want out of your life like if you got anything you know what what would it that you and sort of just I guess the the things that I go to is

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firstly like building a relationship with the you got to build that relationship and really dissolve it down because first time speak with someone's like oh what's your goal they like yeah I want to buy an investment property Martin Luther King here very inspiring you know wants to get investment property not doing anything for anyone like what does that meant to do for you you know it's like what do we hope to do for that so less around like what's the goal itself but what's the influence

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that you hope that to have uh on your life or the people that you hope to influence right and then uh from the sort of that back into like what's important then how can we use tangibles to get to get those things you know for example a lot of cents say oh spend time with my kids culture um create generational wealth give my kids an opportunity that I never had um not after work know it's a simple one but those those things rather than like this amount of this this amount of that this amount of that that's our job it's like

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what's the soft things that are really important to you and like really uh I guess rejuvenate your soul like how what what makes you dick as a person and then what would we need in terms of money for you to do that all the time you know yeah and that's it's like yeah it's a bit of a poke and prying sort of exercise but yeah I use I usually go to those who think either it's like the carrot it's like what would you have what could think okay it's like all right now that's not that's not a that's

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not a reality what's the Baseline that you're happy with and if you don't get that who suffers right okay yeah who around you suffers and you know I often think about how like I I have a belief and I think it's important that when you're looking at generating wealth is it from a place of selfishness or is it from a place of giving to others and if your aspiration is to generate wealth in order to I guess benefit yourself and to comfort yourself that's one thing but if you're

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trying to generate wealth in order to impact your children lives impact your partner's life impact your mother in your case your father um those that love you when you're generating wealth not just for yourself but for others it feels different and and it and taking the selfishness away can actually make it feel a lot more uh worthwhile because if you're just doing it for you you'll do you'll do so much but if other people are depending on you your goals get yeah way more important got to be bigger than

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you it's got to be bigger than you and even that's that's I think we talking about this before is like say like me like it needs to be like a certain level of chaotic before I'm inspired into any sort of action you know same sort of thing if it's just me that it serves to benefit we get to it it's fine you know I'm sweet like I'm good right now yeah I don't need to push that hard yeah put me in the bathroom again for a while might it be fine is it you know but like give

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some carrot sandwiches some sandwiches man if you got um yeah if you have you still eat carrots sometimes okay not on sandwiches with homus at all it was the weirdest [ __ ] lunch would strange they would get like you know julan carrots so like The Little Match Stick [ __ ] just obviously they' worked hard in the kitchen right working hard those carrots yeah yeah yeah like come on they got to be nice and on a piece of white sty bread you know anyway so like carrots and like beetro not like not juicy just so dry

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just like with dry and dry with homus congratulations yeah see you later that was it yeah but you toast them that were all right anyway yeah okay yeah if anyone's listening and inside yeah to that thing um now I understand with um one of the coolest things I think about about what you're doing is that your business is 100% owned and operated by the indigenous Community yeah well I think we're like 70% operated now we got to got two white people okay cool and and was that a difficult decision or was

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like no it made sense it's like I feel like um it just has to happen right so it's just how it needs to be as a like a further iteration of the belief mechanism yeah sort of just breaks it in half it's like cuz even sometimes Aboriginal people believe this were less than [ __ ] so once I make IND what do you mean by that can you please define that it's like H like sometimes ariginal people aren't as capable whatever because we don't have so much experience or you know we need some like in

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original businesses you very rarely will see it 100% abigal owned an operator or anything like that because there's this belief of you need the external support or some else and there's so many original businesses [ __ ] called out right now you know they they're like you know [ __ ] the government Independence and D D D D D but then get government funded which is just dumb like it just makes no sense how could you the government the same government that were hoping to like regain control from we

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need as a matter of survival it doesn't make any sense so for me like indigenous wealth is like I'm going to make this into a [ __ ] not only a actual genuine business but the best [ __ ] business in Australia cuz I feel like that's what it needs to be and the biggest and the most successful and going to be run by all our original people cuz that's just proof that it can be done like we're not capable you guys aren't taking Government funding no [ __ ] not a chance never the people that we serve to

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help are not the government they're Aboriginal people right and so I can't have an external party comment on that or or judge on that firstly like it's the the market dictates the price like if we're providing a good service and we're self-sufficient and helping our original people we're going to be in business and if we're not we're not going to [ __ ] be in business it's pretty simple as that same as every everyone every other business has got to face the same maker

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so you're looking at this as like I want to play by the same rules I want this to be as legitimate as possible I don't want to be perceived in any way shape or form as having uh some kind of handicap or or help like this is legit we built this thing our community did this bootstrapped it yeah and and using that as um proof that like hey anyone can do this exactly so so number one to have a bulletproof business number two to serve as a shining example to all of aage people across the next [ __ ] 100 years

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that IND indigenous wealth Fe that that's what's possible for our original people like we become the like my vision is that so you can see think of like this sort of like your PWC and deoe and Comm bank and westpack and whatever but for Aboriginal people that's what that's what indigenous wealth is Big Business top bottom for Aboriginal people and so once we're there in every state got our buildings blah blah blah like original people going to be able to look at that like with pride and be like

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that's probably one of the biggest business in Australia and it's all [ __ ] blackf is actually made from a blackf that went to jail you know and that's that's the point to use it as a shining bacon like all the time so not only like be doing it like you rock up knock on the door people are going to make money but you can look at it and be like that's inspiring you know that's incredible man I think it's remarkable what you're doing here and I like that you know you're doing it with this grit

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determination consistent effort and and you've done it from from essentially Rags man like you've really crafted this thing and molded it in into your vision and to build into generational wealth what are some things that people can um take here as advice so someone listening to this is like okay I want to have intergenerational wealth I've let's just say the listen is like I've grown up poor I don't have access to Mark Boris and all these people like where do I start where do I put my energy where do

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I put my time uh learning right so day one for me I would say this joke about this with my teams like day one for me was Google I used to be like what do rich cuns do what do rich people do sorry I like what do rich people do and it would be like property you know and so I would that's that's how you s learn but rich people have property how do I get property okay I was like all right revolutionary okay property now what what do they how do they get how to get a property you know is it like yeah well how do you go how

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do you go from scratch to property Yeah well yeah 100% I don't own any property yet i' that's probably the one industry I haven't really delved into educationally um like I'm pretty naive to this so like take me through the process like what's the first few steps absolutely all right so understanding like firstly well you'll get there later right first thing is like you just need to save you need a bit get a bit of capital get some capital in the market someone like yourself is just like you

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need to hurry up and do that like CU enough Capital you should be up you should be right to do it some someone doesn't have Capital don't have Capital then wouldn't get really pointy with it so just think about like firstly what well learn about property and all the benefits of it and then what do you hope that serves you as like it could be like passive income could be just general wealth the reason for that is cuz it's going to walk you down two different trajectories what are those two

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different trajectories so like growth path like basically Building Wealth for the sake of having wealth later on down the track so less important to bring fruition now whereas if we're looking at passive income then by some intelligent maneuvering you could be there in a few years you know and so I guess just been able to articulate what you hope to get as a benefit of that you know someone that wants some passive income now these sort of properties that are going to give you long-term growth they're not

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going to they're going to be right so one is going to put some cash in the bank steadily and replace your income the other one is like we're going to compound and build wealth very generalized but yeah in in a general then take me down the wealth path like you know if someone's starting with scratch and they're working in everyday job well they're they're both step one's going to look the same for both of them but over time it's like what you buy and why you buy it is what will what will

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sort of change but more importantly is like just starting with an end in mind so it's like what is the goal that you hope to get out of proper it's like another vehicle it it opens up as another Avenue of your life that's the thing like it sort of sits in the background on autopilot that's going to bring these economic goals closer to you you're still going to have to do all [ __ ] in your daily life and all these other sort of things but this sort of just brings these away so I guess your

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first if I gave you a goal I wrote down recently yeah I wrote down I want to own 70 uh apartment buildings oh like deadly all right sweet and where are we starting from so we had say we start off with like a million bucks like what do we know about properties that just going to double every sort of 10 years so you can sort of Bank on whatever you own growing at roughly 10% a year so we're making like 100 Grand a year so the Trigg is going to be firstly it depends on what your I guess your risk profile

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is if you got heaps of extra cash then we just focus on getting [ __ ] that grows at the highest rate irrespective of the cash flow that sort of depends on how de do I have to build some kind of relationship with the bank to get my first property like you need a team you need to have a good team Ranger so first step is like end in mind second step is get the capital so save a bit of cash third step is get a good team right so get a good team people that you can trust that done or going on the route

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before like for example we've got uh I've got about 28 280 odd million dolls worth of real estate transactions under my belt that have been involved in and so that experience is something a lot of people get the leverage off and really what they pay a lot for so try go solo try to get around other that have done it before yeah you got someone else like you know and even if you even if it's for sheer education pay someone and steal everything off them it's great who's who's some people that you've been

01:16:38 - 01:17:32

able to do that with what's that some people you've been able to I guess seek for mentorship and and I have this um oh yeah mentors yeah yeah I have an analogy like what I call an invisible Mentor got so I remember I used to um when I would work sales jobs I would do like a daily commute for like an hour and on that commute I would play an audio book and I used to imagine like the person was sitting next to me in the car while I was driving and they were talking directly to me it's just a weird mental

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thing I used to do cuz I think you can passively listen to audio books and go yeah yeah I know this yeah yeah but then if you're like I'm in a conversation with this person and they're talking to me about my problem it changes how you receive the information but I remember I used to do this again and again and again but like for you like how how how have you collected mentors over the years same you know to be honest that's a good way to articulate but I would probably say I do would do similar

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similarly the same thing but through books early on when I had no [ __ ] mentors and then over time I would ask for them people always say your mentors should find you I like [ __ ] that I'm asking so I'm not going to wait I'm going to kick the door in yeah hey hey bro so one of my best mates now he was my first Mentor cuz he was like the GM of my business uh of the business that we were in and he uh so he serves as a mentor but now these days so still him so Matt Wilson runs WT Capital does really well

01:17:57 - 01:18:50

Daniel I sort of lean on a lot Mark when he doesn't have too much time but he's like more of an invisible Mentor as well emulate what he does speak to him when I get the chance to but one of the the main one or the pillar of guess of my mentorship is Adrian hondros he's a he's a weapon but mentors is uh it's [ __ ] invaluable you need them like just get people and this what I've always done is like you don't need your mentor to be everything all at once it's like what's the one thing they do

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CU a lot of people do that right they try to find that one person who can solve everything exist that's nuts to me cuz I always at any given time I have like three or four I'm like exact I got this guy for finance I got this guy for uh Vision casting and prepping and planning I got this guy for cultural development like bring in Specialists you know exactly yeah exactly like even my uncle he's like you know he's [ __ ] hopeless and just about everything else he's like cultural Mentor you know uh

01:18:48 - 01:19:36

yeah you might not he went viral he was like the guy that done the welcome to country with the beard I don't know if I've seen that you my Uncle Brandon this is a classic but um but yeah no 100% like sort of picking them and not being uh not asking for too much it's like what's the one value that this person does exorbitantly better than everyone else and get that guidance off them and lean on lean on for that you know like same with me you know if you come to me for relationship advice M

01:19:13 - 01:19:58

you're going to get yourself in hot water right but anything else you're going to be fine you know basically business or mindset you know that's that's what you're going to be good for but that's all I'm good for yeah you know and so like pick your mentors and wear you hope for them to get the value and I think I've really C crafted a really good good little crew if if you to recall on like any personal conversations that you've had with a particular Mentor like what were some of

01:19:34 - 01:20:34

the most maybe one or two most pivotal moments uh and and what did you do with that information good good one for everyone listen I get my ass handed to me all the time like all the time so they're happening all the time uh what's a recent one yeah I got [ __ ] roasted oh basically just being like uh trying to do too much at once you know like trying to think you're not like s so it so some is a really one so it sort of uh discounts your true value when you allow yourself to do all these things at once

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right because while you get away with it because you're capable and you can spin a lot of plates and you're very fancy good job if you just done one thing you would do them 100 times better than anyone else who' done it right it would compound it would compound rather than spreading yourself to exactly yeah exactly and so just like I think two of them tell me at the same time basically just like [ __ ] mate do one thing do it well and get it on then get it on with the next mons but if you just focus

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intently on that and even at the dismay of everything else like everything else has to drop what's the one thing that you keep make your decisions like that and do them uh and and that's been working what's been that for you like what's been that one true thing that you're really excellent ad that you should never take your head off uh I guess less about that but with the with the business right is that there's so much opportunity and so many things that we want to do and they all rear their

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and as we get further and further along business the opportunities like rear their head they start coming at you coming towards you and so being able to sort of distill that down into like what's the core one thing that we need to be doing and and then also like what's the core amount that it needs to be done like for example our core driver of the business like we do sales we do property transactions all that sort of stuff we want to be getting into like finance and we dabbled in that didn't

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really work too much but we'll get back around to it accounting we got a bunch of other things as well right and so they all pop up at interesting times like sometimes all at once and whatever I'm like oh yeah we can let's get this done and let's start doing this and now I've got all these meetings throughout the week that I'm doing these and it starts to dilute the time doing the core Core Business and so keeping a focused dial on on what's the core um yeah super important then even in your personal

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life it's like what's the driver like for example like morning routine that sort of stuff like what's the core on negotiable that needs to sort of happen and as you start to get really busy you're like oh I start discounting oh I don't need to train or [ __ ] whatever else and then [ __ ] starts to fall apart and so yeah figuring out like what you what you call one or two things that keep the lights on and then do the third thing when time it's it's important I was having a

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conversation uh the other day with a friends and they were explaining to me like hey really struggling here to to generate Revenue I was like open your calendar open the calendar I'm like it's empty I'm like where's the money and he's like well yeah I'm working on that I need to focus on my product development I need to go craft this and that I'm like you do you have a product you could sell right now yeah but it's not perfect well sell it sell it right and and I was explaining to him like if

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you look at your calendar and this is a rule I've tried to apply for years and the way I've organized my calendar is that you know I have all these meetings for all different types of things uh and I started labeling them different colors yeah and then for me I do that too yeah I get I get I get psycho on this and and I I've I've never been like the fully meticulous planned type person I've trained myself to do this right and um I think it clears my mind up because I can look at my calendar at a glance and go

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okay green symbolizes money-making activities lots of green good news yeah if I look at a week and I don't see much green I'm like something's gone terribly wrong this week if I look at my calendar I'm like yeah 60% green this is going to be a good week so I think you know often times people get so caught up in all these distractions they go left and right and they go Wayward and it's like just sit and look at your calendar and look at how much activity is being invested into your core competency that

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pays you and in your case it's property development yeah that's right yeah 100% And it's like yeah that was it like Adrian started bringing the Bell like early on and be like you need to stop you need to stop you need stop then eventually be like all right you're [ __ ] around now but yeah exactly exactly that right it's like what's the thing that pays you and do that for most of your time like crazy concept you know you need money to keep the [ __ ] a boxer get in the ring get in the ring man yeah

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making money got to skip for another [ __ ] 10 years before I get in there no [ __ ] get in there mate I'm going to shadow box for another six months there's no money in that let me watch some more time exactly um now with everything that you're doing you're creating a legacy you're you're doing a phenomenal job you know helping your community and uh and focusing on helping create intergenerational wealth and Indigenous communities but I think in many ways you could you know serve to

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support a lot of people um how do you want to be remembered F I don't want to be remembered uh I think I want to be remembered for uh I don't know on a small scale on a big scale I think a big scale yeah on a big scale yeah for being the person uh for being the one that changes the D the for being the person that restarts the the mentality shift for Aboriginal people one of abundance like thriving like that really takes us back into thriving and away from surviving so be the one responsible for creating the

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business that does that so indigenous wealth but I guess what I really want to be remembered for is for being the person in the people that I meet's lives that inspires them into some sort of action that they [ __ ] should have always been doing you know so I feel like I do that anyway so just doing do make sure I'm make sure that happens you know because I I think a lot of people in life they got too many [ __ ] Yes Men you know that are like everyone's like pity partying each other and

01:25:02 - 01:25:44

holding each other back as a way to make yourself feel better and all this sort of stuff like very rarely do you have like a mate that actually wants the best for you or or anything like that I just want the best for everyone that's a good person I think everyone [ __ ] deserves to have whatever they want you know otherwise what are we what are we all doing here you know and so you know if no one's tell you I'm happy to tell you but it's like it's you deserve everything that you [ __ ] can put your

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mind to uh and you also owe it to yourself to to do the things that are required to get there you know what I mean so you deserve it 100% but it's it's your work that you got to be doing and you're more than capable to [ __ ] do it so make sure you do it that's a good point and I I think I asked myself a question on the weekend and I um at the moment of this podcast i' I burst my eardrum on the weekend good news uh good news right and and I was sitting there and I I was getting pissed off cuz I love listening

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to music that's like my thing on the weekend I'm like gets me pumped up rejuvenates me heals my soul it's my my soul food and I was frustrated because I can only hear my left ear and I was like this is frustrating and some of my hearings come back today but the point of this question was the question I asked myself was what's the value of being comfortable [ __ ] that's a good one like what is the value what do you get out of it what do you really get out of it and it's like you feel good okay struck your

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emotions struck your emotions and and and what's what's the Merit what's the ROI of comfort and I went back through my mind of every point in my business where I was like man this is pretty good I'm pretty comfortable right now and every single one of those moments led to a crunch in my business yeah an absolute painful season thereafter and and I have this belief that you know in business you're either dying or you're scaling business is a business can't stay comfortable like name a com a a

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company that's perfectly plateaued and stay in Comfort they're either growing or or they're Contracting but like what is the value of comfort there's to me in in business at least there's not much Roi yeah maybe piece of mind maybe some balance but what else there's got to be none there's got to be none I say yeah it's like an emotion yeah it's no I [ __ ] agree uh I had a point there what' you say the question is what is the value of comfort [ __ ] had a great [ __ ] point

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8hd [ __ ] that's why I always interject I'm like I'm going to lose in man what do you think though like what what is what the value com honestly I don't think there is uh much value in in in Comfort I think it's all in the opposite of it you know it's all in the uncomfort cuz oh that's it yeah that's the [ __ ] thing so I fully believe like if you're a living organism you are either growing or you're dying and if you look like you're flat like if if it's seeming like

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everything's going well you're probably just on a big bell curve that you can't see the inclination of down or up like it it's moving in One Direction like the curvature of the Earth yeah you can't quite see the downturn but it's G down 100% if it's going flat it's not going up it's [ __ ] going down so the Earth's not flat not flat by the way yeah DM me no well Nature's a [ __ ] man like I I think you know like um I read this years ago and it was like uh if you you take

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an a a creature out of its environment and you put it in a new environment uh one of two things happens it either learns how to thrive or it dies there you go and it has to adapt new food sources new predatory threats um and if it tries to live the same it gets wiped out it has to change and I think when you go from you know living a you know a childhood in in in poverty and then all of a sudden you're trying to become wealthy you're Chang in ecosystems oh yeah which means your nourishment comes

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from a different place you have different threats money becomes a very different object people become a very different resource everything shifts and I think you talked about this earlier where you start to lose friends it's an interesting yeah the whole that that's a it is an interesting journey I think that's been a that's what I like the most about the whole I guess the business [ __ ] journey is that it forces you to adapt so many different times or stay where you are you know or St where you are and the

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cool thing is that like i' you know start from the [ __ ] solo and had to go through so many different little uh Evolutions to get to where I am now and even now I feel like I'm maybe one or two evolutions and we get started you know what I mean like it's always constantly there's always constant like work and evolution and adapting to do it's like your pig analogy you can't grow tusks unless you're in the wild and you go a little fof for six weeks exactly that but yeah 100% agree like if

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you're not a growing like if if you're not like uh struggling with something trying trying to develop something trying to improve something you're you're D you're 100% dying or working backwards or going backwards you're getting worse for sure and it's it's true even in sales you know it's like if you're not selling you're getting worse at it for sure and if you're not like if you're not doing it you're not doing the art of it you're not trying not [ __ ]

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actively trying to get better at it like oh this is this worked this didn't work reflecting on it it's getting worse it's 100% blunting if you're not using it you're losing it right and and I learned this lesson recently I stopped selling for about a year in my business came back to it and I was like man I'm really [ __ ] at this again it took me about 6 weeks to get back to the level I was at a year ago and now I'm like going beyond that I'm like this is actually fun again

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man you got to keep you got to keep everything online um what's a quote or a mantra that you've carried with you on your journey that you wished everyone listening to this would immediately Implement can I say the other one sure that's the one though that is the only one that is I've already got it do you have any other quotes that that really speak to you maybe something from Mike Tyson or should WR book yeah there's um there's yeah I think therefore I am right and that's like a that's like a

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another one on like I guess who who thinks he can who who thinks he can't they're both right you know so I guess those right it's like you just want to take it's not yeah take the [ __ ] thing by the horns right and just like don't don't accept anything else other other than what you got because everything else is just an opinion that someone else has like served or or put on top of you it's not it's not your reality right and it's like you know someone he's a good one so with Les

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Brown Les Brown say he says it in one of his speeches it's like someone's opinion of you doesn't have to be your reality and that's true right some someone's opinion doesn't have to be reality it's like yours like you get to create the whole thing pick beliefs pick goals pick whatever it is that serves you because it's only you at the end of the day when the current closed like it's just [ __ ] you and what what you done with it so yeah don't accept [ __ ] except what

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you want you know I I saw a piece of content the other day where someone was explaining like you know you're you're you know as an entrepreneur you want to like have a balanced calendar and you want to um you know make sure you got free time and and I only take two or three appointments a week and I'm making a ton of money and I'm like yeah but you don't have a team you're [ __ ] loser but that's fun when you're freelancing [ __ ] that but name it name an entrepreneur that's building an

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established legitimate business with a ton of team members a ton of cultural issues payroll tax like an actual Enterprise name one person who's not in it 12 hours a day for the first five years maybe a crypto bro here and there but like someone who's building not a chance business not a chance man yeah no there's literally not enough time in the [ __ ] day like all week at all like zero I'm like all right well these are going on the next week's list it's just a constant chasing your

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ass yeah yeah now you get that but it's is what it is what else would you be doing yeah you know me what else you be doing and who's going to do it I think I think what you're doing is remarkable um I'm humbled by your story and just how how much you've used that as a force to do good in the world and to help contribute to the people that you love and care about if um people are listening to this right now who are either in the Indigenous Community or would like to play a support role in any

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way shap or form how can they reach you uh so socials so LinkedIn Instagram uh I think we got Facebook I'm not sure I keep getting banned but uh anyway indigenous wealth uh or reach on the website www. indigenous wealth.com book a call our team will reach out help mob in any way shape or form we can yeah and um I've got a lot of admiration for you men incredible what you've been able to do and um thank you so much for giving some of your time I know you're on a busy schedule uh but yeah today was a

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